MARTYN Family of St Columb Minor

[dmollison]

Tim - this is a misunderstanding.  All those numbered "5", including Silas Edward,  are children of Thomas and Sarah - the numbers are generations down from Thomas Martyn / Gertrude Turnavine; thus the "6"s are children of the "5"s, e.g. Isabel Allin Martyn is Silas Edward's oldest child.

Denis

[Little_Family]

Denis,
Thanks for phrasing it so politely! I'll put it down to a senior moment.
Tim

[Diam]

Hello Denis

I have some dates for Thomas & Sarah that may be new to you but as I am off to Cornwall tomorrow for a week details will have to wait until I return.

Diana

[Diam]

I had hoped to highlight additions to Dennis's post in red but haven't succeeded. If anyone would like a copy of the file I have created please send me an email address.
 Full dates without a source are from graves & parish records. I'd welcome further information /corrections
Diana

  4 Thomas MARTYN Dr. b 1774 c: 16 APR 1774 d: 7/6/1826 bur St C Major 11/6/1826
m. Sarah Darke 17 Nov 1801, Hatherleigh (SD: 1778 bap 11/2/1778 (IGI) died 17/9/1852 bur St C Major 22/9/1852
                5 Gertrude Kinuell ?Hiscutt MARTYN 16 Aug 1802 Hatherleigh, d 10/8/1823 bur St C Maj 14/8/1823
                5 Elizabeth Drew MARTYN  21 Sep 1803 Hatherleigh
                5 Mary Darke Drew MARTYN  30 Aug 1805 Hatherleigh prob died 1885 in Plymouth area
                5 Sarah MARTYN  b 1806 Hatherleigh, c 18 Nov 1806 St Columb Maj prob died 1888 Plymouth area  (In Plymouth with Mary 1881)
                5 Mary Agnes MARTYN  5 Oct 1807  St Columb
                5 Thomas Darke MARTYN Dr. c 11 Jul 1811 - d 9 Feb 1891 St Columb (Probate record)
        + Mary Frances Glubb, m Liskeard 25/10/1838
- d St Columb, 9/12/80 (Probate) aged 65
                    6 Mary Frances MARTYN c 19 Feb 1841 St C Maj, bd 18 Mar 1843
                    6 Sydney Thomas MARTYN c 25 Jun 1842, bd 17 Feb 1843 (7 mos)
                    6 Frances MARTYN b 10 Feb 1844, bd 27 Aug 1910 (of Ashleigh, St C)
                    6 Janet MARTYN c 7 Aug 1845, bd 15 Jun 1865, aged 20
                    6 Sydney Glubb MARTYN c 24 Aug 1849, d 19/11/1876 (probate) Ongar, aged 27
                    6 Emily Lyne MARTYN c 24 Aug 1852, bd 1 Jun 1934, aged 81, of Ashleigh, St Columb
                5 John MARTYN - 9 Nov 1814, d  9/2/1882, bd 15/2/1882 Ibberton
- clergyman, Vicar of Ibberton, Dorset
                  + Margaret Alner Harvey, c 6 Mar 1833, m 27/5/1856 Sturminster Newton, d 30/4/1888 (Sherbourne-probate) bd 4/5/1888 Ibberton
                    6 George Horace Martyn b.Apr/Jun 1858-Ibberton Dorset
   m Mary Eleanor Fendall b.Abt 1863-Windlesham Surrey;m.Apr/Jun 1886
                    6 Margaret Emma Martyn b.Jan/Mar 1860
                    6 Mary Frances Martyn b.Oct/Dec 1862-Sturminster Newton Dorset)   m Robert Moore Bridge Oct/Dec 1888
                    6. Susan Maria Martyn b.Jan/Mar 1866
                    6 John Darke Martyn b.Oct/Dec 1871-Ibberton Dorset
                5 William MARTYN - 30 Sep 1815, d 21/ 9/1896 (probate) Wandsworth
- doctor, in Kensington 1851, 1861
                 + Elizabeth Bowen Pridham, m 17/1/1854 Bathwick (Newspaper)
- Elizabeth Bowen Reed, b 1821/2 Brittany, d ca. May 1898 Wandsworth
  m1. 6 Jul 1848 (Clifton) John Drake Pridham (?1812/3-ca.Feb 1853)-> Mary b. 1849 Mauritius
                    6 Orlando Bridgman MARTYN - b  30/11/1854, bap 31/1/1855, Holy Trinity Brompton Rd
                    6 William Edward MARTYN - b  16/1/1856 bap 16/2/1856, Holy Trinity Brompton Rd
                    6 Edith Mary MARTYN - b  17/10/1857 bap 18/11/1857, Holy Trinity Brompton Rd
                    6 Constance Elizabeth MARTYN - b 18/11/1859 bap 28/12/1859, Holy Trinity Brompton Rd
                     6 Herbert Reed Martyn  b 11 May 1861. bap 29/6/1861 Holy Trinity Brompton Road London
                    6 Beatrice Martyn 16/11/1862 in Knightsbridge London. bap 24/12/1862 in Holy Trinity Brompton Road London.
                5 Silas Edward MARTYN - c 21 Apr 1817, 7/11/1887 (Probate)
- (Edward) - warehouseman / East India merchant
                  + Mary Matilda Allin, m  Wandsworth 7 May 1850 Holy Trinity Clapham d ca Nov 1870 Christchurch
                    6 Isabel Allin MARTYN b ca May 1851
                    6 Charles Edward MARTYN b ca Nov 1852
                    6 Henry Allin MARTYN
                    6 Florence Mary MARTYN b ca Aug 1856
                    6 Alice Maud Martyn   - b ca. Feb 1858 Kensington
                    6 Ellen Darke Martyn - b ca. Nov 1859 Kensington
                    6 Emily Constance Martyn - 18 Aug 1861 Kensington
                    6 Thomas Allin Martyn - b ca. Aug 1863, d ca. Aug 1868
                    6 ?Ernest William Martyn b ca. Feb 1869, d ca. Nov 1869
                5 Ann MARTYN [?? - might mean Mary Agnes]
                5 Maria Darke MARTYN - c 30 Mar 1818 d ca May1900
                  + Thomas TRELOAR, m Enoder 19 Sep 1845 d 12/8/1880 Plymouth (probate)
                    6 Charles Edward TRELOAR c 25 Mar 1847 Kenwyn
                    6 Henry Martyn TRELOAR c 28 Jan 1849 Kenwyn
                    6 Maria Louisa TRELOAR c 1 May 1851 Kenwyn

[fizzybubble]

I wonder if anyone is still following this.

I have been helping someone to research Elias Martyn son of Richard Martyn and Ann Mugfer St Austell.

I have traced Richard Martyn's possible baptism to 1741 St Austell parish register where it says he is the son of Paul of St Columb Minor. This would seem to put his parents as Paul Martyn and Thomasine Turnavine. They had one other child, Paul who died.

It would also seem to fit in with his eldest son being called Elias Martyn - a name used by his uncles for their siblings.

He is an important part of the tree as he went on to own Carthew in St Austell and son Elias became important in the china clay industry and his descendants made many impressive alliances in marriage.

Fizzy

[krisesjoint]

Hi Fizzy,

I was somewhat confused here as I do not know of a Paul MARTYN. This Elias comes up in my work though his second wife (no issue) On Checking what I have - yes the son of Richard MARTYN (a mercer) and Anne MUGFUR. If I have the correct Richard, he was buried 16 Jan 1814 aged 69, so born about 1745. Possible baptism 3 Mar 1741 father John. I had John as = Pascos RICKET 23 Sep 1732 St Austell. Only other baptism I found is Jone 24 Jun 1733. I have not connected them to the St Columb Minor family.

The only Thomasin TURNAVINE I am aware of married John MARTYN. They lived in Crantock and to my knowledge had only one child John 1745-1746. The MARTYN tree gives them no issue.

The other Elias MARTYN's are from the St Columb family.  They appear to be named Elias for their grandfather/great-grandfather Elias HISCUTT. (which would not appear relevant to the St Austell Elias.)

Cheers Kris 

[fizzybubble]

Now I am confused.

Richard bap 1741 St Austell with father Paul of St Columb Minor are you saying he is not the Paul Martyn who married Thomasine Turnavine ? If not, why not ?

Fizzy

[krisesjoint]

As far as I am aware there is no Paul MARTYN of St Columb.    The only Thomasine TURNAVINE I am aware of married John MARTYN of Crantock.

Kris

[fizzybubble]

I have just checked that St Austell register.

I mean John. Wrote down Paul - one of those senior moments.

So if he was John of St Columb, he seems to fit with Thomasine Turnavine. Do you think that is a possibility now ? John and Thomasine had a son John who died, leaving Richard as an only child.

He seems to fit nicely with that family, calling his son Elias and his daughter Catherine married someone from Crantock.

I see there is a will for Richard Martyn 1814 - may be worth getting.



Fizzy