John McNaught death circa 1873

[Oramazda]

Hi Robbra, I'm away from home at the moment on my mobile but would be interested to know more of your end of the family. I have done extensive research on the family with some 11,000 links. I'll be in touch again on my return home. Cuz Ruari.

[J.J.]

great that we can get family members together...welcome robbra  !
Oramazda ...For your records...In case you hadn't seen the divorce of McNaught & Ballard in 1931
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/divorce/001070-119.01-e.php?id=2151

Were there any blanks we hadn't filled in for you, as there is always new information available...

[robbra]

Thanks for the replies ! We travelled to the UK some years ago and visited Thornhill, Penpont with John's parents gravestones and stayed in a wee bothy at Tynron where John McNaught and Sarah Kirkpatrick married.

I can't find a birth/christening for Elizabeth McNaught.  Her age varies according to various records.  I believe she was born about 1834, the year her parents married.  I assume she was left with her grandparents back in Penpont.  Does anyone know when John and Sarah emmigrated to Canada?

Robbra

[Oramazda]

I believe that John had a grain business in Penpont that failed he then left for Canada about 1842. "McNaught John 1811-1873 from Penpont, DFS. s/o David M. and Margaret Corrie To Ont. Ca. 1842 M. Sarah Kilpatrick. Ch 1 Elizabeth went to Aus. 2. Margaret 3. David b. Ca 1839 4. Thomas 1841-1921 DC 23 Oct 1981". John died in 1877 at , Tuckersmith, Ontario. I've yet to discover when Sarah died. I have births and deaths of all his children with the exception of Elizabeth's birth which I have at about 1836 and James birth about 1853 and death ? Elizabeth I have recorded as having died in 1908 in Geelong, Australia though no exact date. You could confirm for me Her husbands dates and I have four children listed. I have a copy of her Uncle David (John's youngest brother) will which is interesting in that he wrote her out of it as he believed her to be well catered for by her husband John Boyd. I am descended from John's brother William and it was his daughter Emily that went out to Australia to replace Elizabeth as Davids housekeeper. On Davids death Emily, his main beneficiary, returned to join her sister in Thornhill and eventually died there in the same house both her father and uncle James died in.

[Oramazda]

Hi J.J. Many thanks for the Ballard information I was not aware of it for as you can see I'm still joining up the pieces. Some time ago I was in touch with a living ancestor of John's line in Canada however he's not replied to my last two e-mails so I'm not sure if he's departed this mortal coil or decided he no longer wishes to pursue a relationship. A pity as I'm sure he'd have a lot to contribute. You'll note that I did eventually get  a answer to my original post.
You win some and you lose some but hopefully you win more than you lose.
Best wishes

[robbra]

JJ thanks for the welcome.  Are you a descendant of John McNaught.  We here in Australia think the McNaughts / Boyds were "shy breeders" but not so in Canada. I have photos of Canadian rels but have no idea who they are.

Oramazda, I have a Margaret, Louis, John and Emily as children of William.  Were there others ? Who are you a descendant of?  I guess we are ggg grandchildren of David and Margaret Mcnaught. John Mc doesn't seem to appear in the 1841 census, but my Elizabeth seems to be there with her grandparents.  Thanks for the info.

Robbra

[Oramazda]

William, my GG grandfather, married Dedimiah Dawes and lived in Reigate Surrey until her death when he returned to live with his sister in Thornhill. They had 8 children Margaret Amy, Frances (Fanny, probably named after her grandmother), Elizabeth, William, Charles Henry, Jessie Janet (not sure of this one as Janet could be Jessie if you see what I mean), Emily, and Louis Arthur in that order. I'm interested to know where you think John fits in as I've no record of this family having a John. I have a Daguerreotype and a portrait of William up in my attic, very dapper not surprising since he was a draper to trade.
Johns' family in Canada seem to have made quite a name for themselves in government especially William Kirkpatrick, a conservative and David, a liberal must have made for interesting conversation at the dinner table!
I really must try to renew the acquaintance of our cousin in Canada if he's still around.
Incidentally David in Ballarat seems to have been a bit of a philanthropist and while he died unmarried he was quite a wealthy man.

[J.J.]

Not a relative, just a rootschatter in Canada...
If the thread is completed just modify the original posting subject line to
 "Completed *John McNaught " and someone will eventually put it in the completed section, where it may be revived at any time...

[robbra]

Oramazda great photo of William Mcnauaght, thankyou. Amazing family resemblance to brother David and even niece Elizabeth. I am attatching a photo of Elizabeth Macnaught and John Boyd about their wedding time of 1866.  They had 4 children Margaret (Maggie), Wilhelmina (Min), William ( Will my grandfather) and Frances (Fan). My great grandmother must have given a simple family tree to one of the older grandchildren. I have a copy and it said 4 children to your William - Margaret, Louis and John and Emily. No other facts.  Since it is only you and I exchanging information now about McNaughts, are you happy if I send personal messages?