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SAUNDERS - Bigamy Records
« on: Thursday 19 June 08 15:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,
My mum and I are starting on our journey to find out where we came from. We only seem to be able to go back to george edward saunders b aug 1927. All we know is his father (whom we were told was Herbert Saunders) was jailed for bigamy. We're having trouble finding who he was - perhaps saunders was not his legal name? George was sent to an orphanage when he was 7 (1934??) He wasnt adopted but returned to his mother at some stage. Married Marjorie Rose richardson and had 5 chn (lived in brighton) One of which as my mother born 1950. Emmigrated to western australia 1960's. 

I want to know if there is somewhere I can find court/legal documents re bigamy around 1934 to see who he was. Does any one know where I can start.

Thanks

Mel

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Re: Saunders - bigamy records
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 June 08 15:56 BST (UK) »
Welcome Mel!

I hope that you will visit us often and make lots of progress with your research!  Please be sure to register your surnames on our surname interests table.

http://surname.rootschat.com/

The simplest way to start your journey may be to find George Edward SAUNDERS' birth certificate.  This will entail going through the GRO indexes.  These record all births/marriages and deaths from 1837.  They are available online pay to view and by subscription at Findmypast.com & Ancestry.co.uk.  They are also freely available at all LDS Family History Centres worldwide.  A partial free index is available at FreeBMD.

http://www.findmypast.com/welcome.jsp

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http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp

Once you have the reference number, you can order certificates online.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

However, it may be safer to get George's marriage certificate first just in case he wasn't registered as a SAUNDERS. This should give his father's name and occupation.

Rick :)



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Re: SAUNDERS - Bigamy Records
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 June 08 18:09 BST (UK) »
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx
 - has the ship listing for George Edward, Marjorie Rose, et al.

There no George E. Saunders in Sep quarter 1927. There is a registration in Brighton in Dec quarter 1927 (allow up to six weeks from the birth, so if they didn't register his birth until October it would be in Dec quarter).

It is:
George E. Saunders, Brighton district, September Quarter, Vol 2b page 224.
(Mother's maiden name McLanahan?).
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 June 08 18:14 BST (UK) »
(Mother's maiden name McLanahan?).

Nice clear copy of this page on FindMyPast - it's McLenahan

Anna :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: SAUNDERS - Bigamy Records
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 June 08 18:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Mel,

Welcome to RootsChat :)


I found these births...

Frederick W SAUNDERS    Jun Q 1926    Brighton    2b  258
mother's maiden name:  MCLENAHAN

George E SAUNDERS    Dec Q 1927    Brighton    2b  224
mother's maiden name:  MCLENAHAN


and this marriage...

Ellen B MCLENAHAN    Dec Q 1923    Brighton    2b  637
Herbert W SAUNDERS with same details.


Regards
Daisy
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Re: SAUNDERS - Bigamy Records
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 June 08 18:24 BST (UK) »
Ellen B MCLENAHAN    

I wonder whether she's the same person as in this birth registration?:

Bertha Ellen MCLENAHAN Mar 1894 Brighton 2b 237

Modified: I think she may be 8 yr old Nellie McLenahan in Brighton in 1901, daughter of James and Catherine: RG13/923/92/26

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 June 08 18:49 BST (UK) »
Hiya Mel

Welcome to Rootschat!

On the 1901 census we have if Daisy has the right marriage

at 30 Quebec Street Brighton

Charles H Saunders 33 head b Hastings canvasser for mineral water
Annie L Saunders 32 wife b Keymer
Charles H Saunders 10 son  Brighton
Ellen S Saunders 9 dau b Brighton
Edith M Saunders 7 dau b Brighton
Herbert W Saunders 6 son b Brighton
Maud M Saunders 4 dau b Brighton

RG13/923 Folio 145 Page 30

You will need Georges birth certificate and the marriage certrtificate of his parents to confirm that this is the right family but I think it stands a good chance its them

Willow x
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Re: SAUNDERS - Bigamy Records
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 June 08 06:04 BST (UK) »
 ;D Wow thank you all. The sites and information you have offered is just amazing. It appears that we have found the start of our family. It sounds like we are definately on the right track with the right people. My mother recognises some names as uncles etc too. I spent soooo long trying to get basic information with no results. I am very happy to subscribe but needed to know which sites to go to. This is so exciting.

A huge thank you once again

Mel

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 June 08 15:45 BST (UK) »
 ???

(blush) Now I just feel silly but I would like some help please. How do I conduct searches (successfully). I've subscribed to ancestory uk site but am unable to find any of my families birth records in the register. I know they have to be there as you all gave me the information here.

I'm obviously doing something very wrong - any advice/help would be very, very, very much appreciated

mel