Liverpool Confectioners

[SydneyDiana]

My ancestors in Liverpool in the 1860/70/80's were confectioners and I was wondering if anyone could help with a few queries.

In 1861 Thomas Chapman (living at 118 Duke St) was a fruiterer and confectioner employing 2 men, 6 women, 1 girl and 1 boy. By 1871 the business was taken over by his son Heywood Chapman (living at Walton on the Hill) and in 1881 Heywood's wife Jane was running the business (living at Crown St, West Derby).

Firstly, are any of the places listed above in shopping areas or are they residences? and are they still current addresses in Liverpool?

Does anyone know or have an idea on what may have happened - both Heywood and Jane migrated to NZ. Did they sell the business or just leave? Is there any way of finding out through records in Liverpool?

Any help much appreciated.
Diana

[ShaunJ]

118 Duke Street was the birthplace of poet Felicia Hemans (The boy stood on the burning deck... )

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/capital-of-culture/capital-of-culture-liverpool-news/2004/02/23/crumbling-facades-of-the-new-world-100252-13980083/

[SydneyDiana]

Many thanks for that bit of info.
Do you know if the place still exists and if anyone is living there?

[SydneyDiana]

sorry, should have looked at the link before hitting reply!!
Pity the buildings are now in disrepair.
Would still be interested to go and have a look though....

[colliecuts]

1871  Gray road   ,,, now reads  Grey road ,,look here for a 1893 view

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55207&sheetid=10179&ox=0&oy=0&zm=1&czm=10&x=602&y=398

The latest Google view looks very similar  , we dont know the number do we ?

possible to navigate on the above map

Al

[SydneyDiana]

Thanks Al
It was 213 Grey Road, Walton on the Hill. Looks like a residential area.
Do you have anything else?
Any idea where their confectionery business would have been with all the changes in address?
Diana

[ShaunJ]

In 1860 Gores Directory, Thomas Chapman has the following entry:

Chapman Thos

fruiterer and proprietor refreshment rooms South
Landing-stage, 118, Duke Street;  shop,  10, James St
steam biscuit bakery, 5, Moor Street

[SydneyDiana]

thanks
do you think this means he had 3 businesses?
A fruit and refreshment rooms at 18 Duke St, a shop in James St, AND a biscuit bakery in Moor Street???

I know he lived in James St in 1851 and Duke St in 1861. But this is the first time I have heard of Moor Street - any idea where it is?

[ShaunJ]

Moor Street is off James Street.

From the directory entry, it seems certain that:

-he was a fruiterer
-he was also a proprietor of refreshment rooms at the South landing stage
-he lived at 118 Duke Street and possibly conducted the business there
- he had a shop at 10 James Street

The bit about the steam biscuit bakery appears to be part of the same directory entry - perhaps that's the "confectioner" bit?