Joseph Williams - help!

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I am hoping we might be onto something then. Here's the family in 1871:

White house, Forden.

Edward Williams h 35 Ag lab Berriew
Mary Williams w 46 Salop
Margaret d 14 Forden
Mary d 12 "
Anne d 10 Salop
Elizabeth 8 "
Sarah d 6 Forden
Emma d 4 "
Martha d 2 "
Edward s 11mths "

More than 6 sisters there, but still, all girls.

I can't find a Joseph Williams, father Edward.

Nearest I can do, 1881 RG11/5492/78/22

White House, Forden - all born Berriew, which is about 7 miles from Forden, and about 5 miles from Welshpool. Forden to Welshpool is about 5 miles. They all sit in a triangle.

Edward Williams 48, ag lab
Mary 50
Annie 21
Elizabeth 19
Martha 13
Edward 11
Fanny 6


If born in Welshpool/Forden the registration district looks as though it would be Montgomery. There is an Edward Williams born June 1870 Montgomery 11b 240.

There are no records Montgomery for a Joseph Williams. It's going to be a bit tricky, I think. Forden records were started Sept 1870, prior to that it's Montgomery. Searching years used, 1870 to 1872

1891 - RG12 Piece 4595 Folio 23 Page 6 in Montgomery - Still Edward

Edward Williams 21, farm serv, b White House, Forden

1891 - Parents/some family are same place, White House, Forden.... RG12 Piece 4596 Folio 128 Page 12

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1901- RG13 Piece 5200 Folio 110 Page 11 - Forden

Mother Mary (wid) and dau Fanny with 3 grandchildren living at Hem Bank Cottage.

Checked BVRI only goes up to 1863 for this area. There are 2 bapts for first 2 dau, of Edward & Mary.

Possibly he only included the name Joseph pre/post marriage?  Cannot find another likely either.

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