wow thanks, I've been to the records office in Bedford and have checked the church records but unfortunatley due to moving 3 times and getting ready to move again the documents have been misplaced, hopefully only temporary.
Might explain why Joseph ended up in Lancashire, I would suspect as he married in the same church 3 times the 1st Pheobe must have died and its missing from the GRO because I vaguely remember finding her death at the records office but can't confirm until I find the documents.
Looks like my great great grandfather had 2 more half siblings then.
thanks again for the responses.
Diane