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Offline Paul Caswell

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Conuence? Shining?
« on: Friday 13 June 08 23:43 BST (UK) »
I made this wonderful discovery the other day. Its the will of my seventh great grandfather Simon Stockley 1680-1733. There's a letter and an itinerary that goes with it.

My interpretation of it is:

September the 29 : 1733
I do give this house and goods to bety stockly
durin her life if she have any a cason to
sel any of the goods for her conuence she
may and after her deces the goods and the
ener chamber is marys as long as she lives a
singel life and the house is georges deuren
johns life and I do give john ane shining and
this is my last will and testament
sind seld and delivered by Simon Stockley

X his mark

john north
george osmond
witnesses

the goods is marys
for ever after her
mothers deces


It has a wonderfully poignant feel. Poor old John (my 6th gt) being cut from all inheritance. He must have been a troublesome (the word used in the letter) boy.

Oh yes! My questions.  ::)

What does conuence mean? I think I can guess it means something like convenience is used nowadays. Was there a true meaning?

Am I right in interpreting and I do give john ane shining as meaning john gets nothing? Is this an unusual/local phrase?

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 June 08 23:49 BST (UK) »
It must have been a deathbed will as he is recorded buried on 2 Oct 1733, just three days later.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 June 08 12:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul
I have a will where a son was given a "shilling"
Someone told me that possibly
1/ He had already had his inheritance from the father
or
2/ Giving him a shilling would ensure he could not contest the will
Sylvia
Main names:
Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley, Conway, Stewart
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Nixon, Sharp, Greaves, Naters
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara, McClure, Howard, Melvin
Lincs - Smith, Vinter

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, , Stewart, Conway, Heather,

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Token shilling left in Will
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 June 08 12:40 BST (UK) »
Paul,

What a wonderful find!

In Jean Cole and John Titford's book, "Tracing Your Family History", they say "... a token shilling may be left ... to a son who had already been given land or financial help during the testator's life", so that accounts for the single shilling.

feelng very envious,

Viv
looking for LANE from Holnest 1729, Hermitage 1750, Leigh 1808, Longfleet 1881, and Kinson 1891+


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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 June 08 13:08 BST (UK) »
What clear writing.   That other legal script is awful to try and read. 

I think you're right that conuence is like  a phonetic spelling of a spoken accent, so convenience.
A cason - occasion

Very literate though, I wonder what his occupation was. 

modify:  just having another look, I see he made his mark, so it was a dictated will.



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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 June 08 14:17 BST (UK) »
Here's the letter. It adds more story to the situation. :)

I think I hit lucky with this.

Here's my transcription:

Dear Sir
I have here sent you the will
of Simon Stockley and a true
inventory of his goods his widow 
is hardly able to be at the expence
of taking out letters of administration
but she was forced to do it in order
to silence a very troublesome son

I am yr humble servt
Jno Pope
Corfe Castle
nov 13 : 1734

Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright

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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 June 08 14:27 BST (UK) »
And just for completeness, the seemingly quite meagre inventory.

An inventory of the goods of Simon Stockly
of Corfe Castle Mason taken Oct 22 ??34

In a Buttery

A Cubboard
Two small iron Potts
One Ladle
An old Table Board
One Trendle

In a dwelling room

Half a dozen of plates
seven small puter dishes
seven of chairs
one small pro?d
two small ske?ers
two of table board

In a inner chamber

an old feather bed with headboard
two pillows two blanketts &
one rug

In a outward chamber

an old feather bed rug & Blanket
two pair of sheets
two of chairs
four old boxes
a little old table board


Such a shame the address is not mentioned.

I wont post the image, it doesn't add much but I would welcome any ideas on what these items are, and what on earth was a trendle?

Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 June 08 14:30 BST (UK) »
The second one might be 'two small skillets'

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Re: Conuence? Shining?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 June 08 14:42 BST (UK) »
Well, if it's any help, here's a picture of a trendle  ;D http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/images/Darmusf.gif


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