Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland

[GeoffE]

OK ... Thomas WOOLMER married Sarah STOW at Holbeach in 1841 ... this means that this Sarah was nothing to do with your lot.

[BonWifi]

I found this.

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Sarah Westland - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: About 1806 Of Holland Fen, , Lincoln, England
 
 Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 1
 
But it says it was submitted 1991 not like it was found in a "normal" record. Is that what submitted is?  Something that might be able to cross check?

Bonnie

[beady]

 
perhaps the Hartley meant 'Hartley known'?

[GeoffE]

I found this.

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
Sarah Westland - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: About 1806 Of Holland Fen, , Lincoln, England
 
 Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 1
 
But it says it was submitted 1991 not like it was found in a "normal" record. Is that what submitted is?  Something that might be able to cross check?

Bonnie

Submitted records may be transcribed from registers ... but such records never say "about".

In this case, we have the baptism of the son of an unmarried mother (Alfred of Sarah) in 1827 ... fact.
The submitter then answers some questions which he/she poses to him/herself.

"How old was she when she gave birth?"  ... "About 21"
"Where did she come from?" ... "Same place as the son's baptism, I suppose"
"So that's ..."    "About 1806 Holland Fen".  "Yes of course, that's what I'll write down." 

[Tati]

"How old was she when she gave birth?"  ... "About 21"

Or 'about 20' : She also had a James, christened 20 April 1826 (whom I can't find on later census at all)

 

[GeoffE]

There was a James WESLEY buried at Boston in 1854 aged 27, I can't see him either.

[BonWifi]

I'm over helmed. But I love all the help. It seems that Sarah Westland
b 1806, single mother of James and Alfred is my Sarah? Hartley was a way for Alfred to avoid all the abuse that "bastard" son would get back then.

Thank you all so much.
Bonnie

[BonWifi]

GeoffE, tate and all

How about this scenario? When Alfred was about to marry the minister ask who is your father? He said the Gentleman Hartley.  (As I have been hunting Hartley turns up as a last name. I checked the baby names all over the internet and fine that less then 2% have hartley as a first name.)
Alfred's marriage certificate gives father name as Hartley and the father rank or profession as Gentlemen. Thinking about it, maybe Sarah Westland was a Mistress of a "Gentleman Hartley". Like he was too high in social rank to claim his son. Life was different back then

Bonnie

[GeoffE]

There's certainly a likelihood that Hartley was a name of his father - forename or surname - more likely the latter.

Someone connected to my tree gave his grandfather as his father at one marriage, then his real father's surname (as a forename) at another marriage.

Looking at the National Burial Index, there are 10 HARTLEY males born 1800-10 buried in Lincs.

Skirbeck 3
Lincoln 2
Gainsborough
Haxey
Folkingham
Gedney
Cleethorpes

I doubt this will lead anywhere unfortunately.

P.S.  Yes, this is Lincolnshire, famous for its "tates".  The lady whom you have just called a potato is Tati