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Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« on: Friday 13 June 08 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi all
I hope someone with better hunting skills then I(me) can find Hartley Westland. I have him listed as father of Alfred Westland. I found this on Alfred's marriage certificate. Alfred and Ann Alexander were married 1850 at Primitive Methodists Chapel Donington, Spalding. In the census I have found Westland spelled Weslan and then Wesley. After the 1881 census Wesley seemed to stick.

Alfred and Ann both signed with an X which might explain how or why the name spelling changed. Anyway If anyone can find Hartley I would be grateful.

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Bonnie,

I'm wondering if Alfred told a little white lie about his father when he married. Have you seen this extracted christening suggesting he was born to a single mother?

ALFRED WESTLAND
Christening 29 DEC 1827   Holland Fen Church, Lincolnshire
Mother SARAH WESTLAND 

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:25 BST (UK) »
Can find nothing on 1841 or 1851 for Hartley, sorry
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tati on Friday 13 June 08 17:24 BST (UK)
Hi Bonnie,

I'm wondering if Alfred told a little white lie about his father when he married. Have you seen this extracted christening suggesting he was born to a single mother?

ALFRED WESTLAND
Christening 29 DEC 1827   Holland Fen Church, Lincolnshire
Mother SARAH WESTLAND 



I was thinking the same Tati ... there's a submitted entry which names the father simply as "Hartley" and mother as Sarah WESTLAND.

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:33 BST (UK) »
Do you have access to a possible marriage for Sarah, Geoff?

Nice choice of name for the father anyway 8)
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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:43 BST (UK) »
I know that Alfred's daughter Rose Jane had a child out of wedlock. It was my Grandfather Edward Wesley. So Alfred's mother Sarah may have a simular thing.

Thank you for your very rapid responce.

Bonnie

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:56 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tati on Friday 13 June 08 17:33 BST (UK)
Do you have access to a possible marriage for Sarah, Geoff?

Nice choice of name for the father anyway 8)

All I have around that time is

21 Sept 1828 at Boston
Sarah WESTLAND (widow) to Joseph WOOLMER

A burial at Gedney
6 Feb 1891 Sarah WOOLMER (79) (nothing on Joseph) ...EDIT: her husband was Thomas WOOLMORE in 1861 :(

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 June 08 19:15 BST (UK) »
Do I have this right?

Sarah Westland was born 1811
Sarah Westland had Alfred out of wedlock.
then about 9 months later she married Joseph/Thomas Woolmore
then She died 6 Feb 1891 as Sarah WOOLMER  age 79 
 
Any chance Joseph and Thomas were brothers? Thomas married this brothers wife after something happened to Joseph?

This is great information. It is so nice to have help.
You all are so good.
Thank you

Bonnie

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Re: Wesley, Weslen, & Westerland
« Reply #8 on: Friday 13 June 08 19:59 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BonWifi on Friday 13 June 08 19:15 BST (UK)
Do I have this right?

Sarah Westland was born 1811
Sarah Westland had Alfred out of wedlock.
then about 9 months later she married Joseph/Thomas Woolmore
then She died 6 Feb 1891 as Sarah WOOLMER  age 79 
 
Any chance Joseph and Thomas were brothers? Thomas married this brothers wife after something happened to Joseph?

This is great information. It is so nice to have help.
You all are so good.
Thank you

Bonnie

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