McKenzie

[malbec]

Hi I'm trying to track down any info on Murdoch McKenzie who was married to a Katharine...last name unknown.

Katharine gave birth to a son, John, in Gairloch in 1804 (which is where I have her name from) so I'm guessing at birth
years for Katharine and Murdoch of around 1760-1780ish and a marriage around late 1790's to early 1800's.  Murdoch's occupation on John's birth certificate is given as "tennant".

John McKenzie was a fisherman in Wick and in 1840 married Isabella Phimister.  Murdoch's name is mentioned as  a witness for
their marriage.

I have come to a complete halt on this branch using Scotland online and am not sure where to go from here.
Thanks!
Bec

[malbec]

Seems I've stumped everyone 

It is possible that Katharine's maiden surname was also Mckenzie.  I have come to this assumption
going on the register with Murdoch and Katharine's son John's birth. Murdoch and Katharine are both accorded the same surname, McKenzie, however other births listed on the same page have different (ie maiden?) surnames for husband and wife.
Is this theory plausible??

I have found John Mckenzie and his wife listed in the 1881 census in Boathaven, Wick. In the 1891 census
Isabella is listed as a widow however I can find no record of John's death    Was hoping to find this with his parents names on it.

Any takers??
Bec

[Kilsyth]

John MacKenzie's death certificate is on ScotlandsPeople.  He died 28.12.1886 aged 83 at Boathaven, Wick. His father was John, a general labourer and his mother was Margaret MacKenzie.  MacKenzie was her maiden and married name.  Hope this helps.

[malbec]

Thanks Kilsyth...that looks like him from the Wife's name and from the occupation in the 1881 census...but parents names are different to his birth registration.   Murdo is father's name on it and Murdoch is his witness at his marriage whilst Katharine is the mother's name on the birth.  From the census data I'm certain I have the right birth too...oh the confusion 
 

Bec

[Kilsyth]

Remember you work backwards from what you know.  Do you have other information to confirm that Murdo is the line you are looking for?

[malbec]

Only the marriage and birth registrations.

And that every other tree I have come across with the son John Mckenzie on it has the same birth in 1804 in Gairloch that I came up with  and so parents Murdoch and Katharine

Bec

[Gadget]

Hi Bec

What were John and Isabella's children's names in birth order? Also, Isabella's parents' names.

The IGI just lists:


William - 1857
James - 1860
Margaret - 1862

It might mean that they used the Scottish naming conventions and it would be possible to work it out from that.

Regards


Gadget

[Gadget]

I see on the 1851 that the children are:

John
Alexandrina
Margaret
George

It looks as if his father might have been a John from this pattern.  However, I'm not sure of Isabella's parents.  There is  a couple having children around the time of Isabella's birth who might be possible parents - George Phimister and Alexandrina Warse. If this is the case, a John and Margaret would fit perfectly as parents of John and George and Alexandrina for Isabella.

there is an Isabella with parents John and Marjory - but Marjory isn't used at all for Isabella's children.


Gadget

[Kilsyth]

Yes Gadget, I agree with your findings.  I also found a John born to John Mackenzie and Margaret Mackenzie in 1810.