graves family

[kncmason]

I am stucj with my family search I am trying to look into my grandma's side but I have come to a dead end. I have Robert graves who was born 1853 father is John Graves. Robert married Annie Oldham in 1883 in Newark Notts. I have found a birth that i think may be him but was hoping someone may be able to help before I purchase anymore birth or marriage certs, getting quite a collection. the birth I have is louth third quarter 1853.
If any of this is part of anyones tree or may be able to help pointing me in another direction I really would appreciate the help.
Cheers
Kara

[Ruskie]

Hi Kara,

Welcome to rootschat!

Just wondering if you have Robert in any census?

[Mum44]

Hello Kara  -  welcome from me too 

Can I ask where you got Robert's father's name?

Certainly the Robert birth reg. you found looks likely, there doesn't seem to be another born then in Lincolnshire.  However, I see that in 1861 census both parents of that Robert were away from home      In 1871 that Robert seems to be in Yorkshire as a chemists and druggist aprentice, but the other two siblings from 1861 are home, with parents Michael and Elizabeth 

This may not therefore be the one 

[kncmason]

Hi Mum44
I have Robert Graves & Annie Oldham's marriage cert that shows Roberts father is John Graves dec at thime of marriage in 1883. After platying for a bit on rootsweb I have found a grave stone from St Helen's in North Thoresby showing John Graves died 5may1860 aged 55yrs. This could be him but not too sure!
My Grandad's family was so much easier to do!!
I appreciate any help.

Cheers
Kara

[Mum44]

Well, it doesn't look as if the Robert 1853 Louth is yours 

Can I just ask a couple more questions:

 Ruskie already asked - have you found him an a census ?

What are you basing his age on?  Is that also from the marriage certificate?

And what were the occupations of Robert and his father - also to be found on the marriage certificate.

[kncmason]

I haven't found them on a census yet! Although on another site I was chatting to someone else who has been searching for Graves but not the same as mine and they found spelling was sometimes greaves - just to throw a spanner in the works!
I am going on the marriage cert for the age he was 30yrs at time of marriage on the 16th of May 1883 - Roberts occupation was Farm Laborour from what I can tell and his father John Graves who was deceased at the time of marriage was a Coal Dealer.
I hope this helps?? I'll keep searching too and keep you posted on my progress. Thanks heaps for all your help.
Kara

[GeoffE]

My money would be on the Robert GRAVES bap in Bassingham 18 Dec 1849, son of John and Millicent.

Bassingham was in Newark Reg Dist. (I can see no birth reg for Robert)

John GRAVES married Melicent PROCTOR at Bassingham, 20 Dec 1832

Was Annie's father David? ... I can see one nearby in Carlton le Moorland.

Deaths Mar 1883 
GRAVES    John    72    Newark    7b   261

[kncmason]

Annies father was david Oldham a Labourer

[Mum44]

Just linking this to duplicate thread on the Notts, board 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=309510.new#new