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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 June 08 18:43 BST (UK) »
Just wondering about all this -

MC says that Cordelia and John married in 1804 but George was 58 on the 1851  :-\

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 June 08 18:47 BST (UK) »
mmmmm, perhaps we should wait before going any further...but Cordelia Wigley is not that common a name so should be the right family?

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 June 08 18:51 BST (UK) »
And she was b. Middlesex and it was Aberaryon

It was the only one in Cardigan that I could find and I tried Wrigley as well. Can't find a birth for George on the IGI or a marriage for John and Cordelia  :-\
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 June 08 18:55 BST (UK) »
Best leave it until we get feedback...am sure it is the right family.... ;)

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 June 08 19:04 BST (UK) »
Yep and as the request was for 1841 and 1851 only, i think we've added some extras  :)
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 10:45 BST (UK) »
:D Oh! You have both been very busy with my request...Thank you Cas & Gadget very much - I had to toddle off to bed, it being the very early hours down here, so I snoozed while you both did the hard work.

You certainly found a Cordelia Wigley, and as Cas said, it is not a common name, but I was hoping she would be a little younger than the one on the Census...I don't know what to make of it all yet.  Maybe it is not her, although the structure of the family, the way they named their children etc., is very similar to the way the Clunne family named theirs.

Information which might make things plainer...1st., re Thomas:

Thomas Pryce Clunne m. Ann Piplar in 1804 at St Margaret Pattens & St Gabriel, Rood Lane, London - they then went to live at Gravesend Kent, where they had Thomas Pipler Pryce Clunne 1808, Cordelia 1809, John (2) 1811 died, 1813 (bap St George, Gravesend) & Sarah 1817 - (the place 'Milton near Gravesend' comes up a lot - and names such as Cordelia and Thomas Pipler Pryce follow in the next generations)

By 1841 Census, Ann Clunne is a widow of  independent means - but I haven't been able to find the death of her husband, Thomas Pryce Clunne, whose death would have occurred sometime between 1816 - 1841. I was hoping by following Cordelia via the Census, I might find out where they were both born, and I note that Cordelia of Aberayron was born in Middlesex.

Information on Cordelia:
Cordelia Pryce Clunne m. John Wigley same year as Thomas, 1804 at St Margaret Pattens & St Gabriel also...so I had assumed she was his sister and was led to believe that they went to Aberayron...

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Down, Ire: Rourke;
Armagh, Ire: Quinn, Read;
London, Eng: Clunne;
Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 11:37 BST (UK) »
The one that I found was the only Cordelia Wigley in Aberayron in 1841/51 and was most likely the one who died in 1852.

From where did you get the information on their move to Wales?


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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 13:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Gadget

I have been doing the Clunne history for a long time and when I found Cordelia had married in London at the same time as Thomas I passed the info onto other members of the same family. It was from one of these that I heard Cordelia had gone to Aberayron in Wales -

I have to say that more recent info says they had come from Scotland - (haven't followed that one yet) but my mother-in-law had said many, many years ago that 'uncle George Clunne' had said the family came from France, and even had a Castle there!(the closest I found in France was the Cluny monastery at Macon, founded 1910 by Duke William of Aquitaine!Of course the name is a 'place name' connected to the re-formed Benedictine monasteries. Uncle George was a first generation born Aussie who had met the family of Clunne's in England when he served in France & Gallipoli WW1 - he returned with gifts of jewellery from the family, but where they lived I have no idea.

I thought the Welsh version was the most promising as the name shows up early there - plus the Pryce (ap Rhys?) second name is Welsh is it not?

It appears that adding two and two in Genealogy sometimes gets three!
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Down, Ire: Rourke;
Armagh, Ire: Quinn, Read;
London, Eng: Clunne;
Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 15:10 BST (UK) »
I think the Scottish 'bit' is a bit of a red herring. On the 1841 index, it says that she was born Scotland but the index is clearly  'N' (not born county) and a squiggle in the Country column which has been wrongly interpreted as S for Scotland. On the 1851, it is clearly Middlesex.

George was b. Cumber land. Could John Wigley have been in the Army? - maybe try the Nat Archives catalogue - WO series.

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