Wyllie Birth Cert

[Forfarian]

Curious.

Best way to check that story out would be to ask Scotland's People, though the relevant page on their web site says nothing about missing registers, whereas the pages describing the old parish registers have lists detailing which have survived and the census pages contain lists of the enumeration books that are known to be missing.

Registers of births, deaths and marriages are kept in duplicate, one in Edinburgh and one in the relevant Registration District, and the ones kept locally in the Registration Districts are routinely stored in fireproof safes. So for a register to be lost in a fire the fire would have had to strike while both books were out of their safe, and within a few months of the end of the year of the events if both copies were lost.

[Dundee]

I agree with Monica that John WYLIE and Jane/Janet WHIT(E)LAW are the parents of your David Donaldson WYLIE.  You won't find a marriage to William ROBERTS because she was already married.

The 'Donaldson' comes from John WYLIE's family.  His brother was also named David Donaldson WYLIE baptised at Bothwell in 1859, the son of William and Agnes (formerly PORTEUS).  John was baptised 1854 at Old Monkland.  The men were all iron puddlers.

Debra 

[Hanan]

Another mystery is Donaldson. A middle name running through the family. Including me. 

Mine too

[Hanan]

According to the marriage cert Jeanie Wyllie is illiterate I think that explains all her name changes

[MonicaL]

Yes, sadly not uncommon at the time.

What do you as family researchers think of the possible new info posted yesterday?

I think John Wylie and Jean/Janet Whitelaw parted ways after the birth of David Donaldson Wylie...

John Wylie showed in his father William's Poor Relief application in 1890. He is listed as widowed and with one son living in Glasgow.

However, on John Wylie's 1881 marriage to Jane Whitelaw he was showing as widowed. He had married a Helen Brown a few years earlier who died young not long after. One son from that marriage, called William and born 1878.

Young William is showing with his paternal grandparents in 1881, William and Agnes (Porteous/Porter).

John Wylie did marry again (bigamously I would suggest). He married Agnes Hewitt in Glasgow in 1890. Showing on the census for 1891 in Glasgow is John, Agnes, young william from John's first marriage and Amelia Wylie. She was born in 1882 and registered as Hewitt to mother Agnes.

John Wylie did not die until 1939 in Cambuslang.

I have just found this family tree for this Wylie family with numerous original certs from SP. You need a subs to view so not sure how accessible this will be to you www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/1880871/person/352177423548/facts

On this tree, there are some errors for John such as the later censuses with the wrong family but I would focus on the original certs that have been included across the family for direction.

Monica

[Dave wyllie]

From my mother :
David Donaldson was born in Bryony parish of Glasgow his mothers parents were John wyllie and Jane Allen nee wyllie

[Forfarian]

That will be Barony. There is no such parish as Bryony.

[Dave wyllie]

That would be my mum’s spelling😁😁

[Forfarian]

David Donaldson was born in Bryony parish of Glasgow his mothers parents were John wyllie and Jane Allen nee wyllie

It does look as if maybe Jane Allan/Allen was David's grandmother rather than his mother. Not an uncommon mistake. I've come across some similar ones in my own tree.