Origin Of Surname

[Chrisrob]

Howdy All

My wife is starting to trace her family history and we have come across the surname of Sictorness.

We have been unable to find the origins of this surname and it is not listed in the SIT.

Does anybody know the origins?

My fifes grandmother Katherine Sictorness was born 1899 in Islington London.

If there is anybody tracing this family we would love to hear from you.

Thanks

Chris

[nickgc]

Hello Chris,

Welcome aboard.

It is interesting that this name shows up very few times in FreeBMD, but every time it DOES show up it is in the London area and in 1900 or after.  This implies one or two things to me: late immigrants to England (but from where?); bad misspelling of another name, e.g. "Sigtornus", etc.  Since you have Katherine, what does the birth cert say about parents? 

There are a few current people of this name if you google it, but apparently nothing relating to genealogy.  I suspect the only way you are going to determine origin is to work backward from what you have until you see it morphing back to whatever its origins were.

Regards,

Nick

[pinefamily]

From pronouncing it out loud, I think it is either Germanic or Baltic in origin. If the instances of the name are all London late-1800's on, then quite possibly the name could originate from a seaman (seamen?) from these regions. I think you may need to think laterally for alternative spellings.
Regards,
Darren

[stanmapstone]

There are only 19 people called Sictorness in the Office of National Statistics database, which contains a list of the surnames in use in England, Wales and the Isle of Mann in September 2002.
It looks like it derives from one family, and is probably a unique name, misspelled from some foreign name. There don't apear to be any in the 1901 census, although the first birth in FreeBmd is in 1900
Stan

[stanmapstone]

It may be worth getting the marriage certificate of Adelaide Sictorness registered in Bethnal Green in the Sep ¼ 1914, 1c 252, which should have her father's name.

Stan

[Necromancer]

Given that there are no recorded marriages in that exact surname before Births, all thats been suggested earlier about immigration would seem correct ..... altho mis-transcriptions / understandings and anglicising may have a role to play ....


Wonder if this chap was in the Country for the 1901 census ?

Deaths Dec 1925  
 
Sictorness  Alfred  55  Hackney  V1b P514

and this lass in the Hampstead District ?

Deaths Mar 1905    
 
Sictorness  Emily H  13  Hampstead  V1a P411




and this couple finally married !

Births Dec 1911  
 
Sictorness  Elizabeth B  Longman  Bethnal G.  1c 251    


Births Dec 1913  
 
Sictorness  James  Longman  Bethnal G.  1c 334    


Marriages Sep 1919  
 
Sictorness  Henry W  Longman  Bethnal G  1c 355    



Searching BMD for all events shows that the forenames were 'english' or at least anglicised in the case of marriage / death .....

[stanmapstone]

, and is probably a unique name, misspelled from some foreign name.

I should have said Anglicised from a foreign name.

Stan

[Tati]

Hi all 

Katherine's father Alfred Andrew's marriage was recorded as Sictornoss. He was born ca. 1870 St Luke according to the 1901 census. Will have a look for earlier census to check the spelling and see if his parents were born abroad! 

[stanmapstone]

This is the family in 1901 RG13/251/119/23 The names are as transcribed, but it is Sictorness
Alfred Andrew Sictornow 30
Harriett Sictornow 28
Adeliade Eliza Sietomxs 6
Emily Harriett Sietomxs 10
Henry William Sietomxs 4
Katherine Sietomxs 1

Stan