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Birmingham Pals
« on: Tuesday 03 June 08 17:49 BST (UK) »
Hello All
I am trying to find information about my Great Grandad.
I know he joined the Birmingham Pals
Pvt Henry (harry)Allen 53559.
My Mum has a letter which he sent from Paull Point Battery,Hedon Hull on 2.6.1919.
He had got married in Birmingham on 17.8.1918
Any help or information would be great.
Thanks
Shannie
Lucas:Exhall,Foleshill
Bray:Foleshill,Coventry
Harrison:Coventry,Derbyshire,Liverpool
Chaplin:Birmingham,London
Allen:Wolvey,Birmingham,Coventry

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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 17:55 BST (UK) »
welcome Shannie - so do you want his marriage found, so you get the maiden name of ggrandnan, and his age and Father's name and occupation ... ?


Or Census entries - that might be harder until his Dads name is revealed on that marriage Cert .....
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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 18:01 BST (UK) »
Does Jane sound right ? 'Sep' quarter is correct for an August wedding date

Marriages Sep 1918 
 
Allen  Harry  [spouse=Chaplin]  Aston Vol 6d Page 971   
Chaplin  Jane E  [spouse=Allen] 


If you want to order the Cert - go to  http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/   and follow the prompts ........
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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 18:02 BST (UK) »
Hi
My Mum has a copy of the marriage certificate so have all those details its more his service history I would like to find out about,I have not been able to find his details on Ancestry.
I am trying to work out when he was injured what Paull Point Battery was a hospital.
It seems from the info I have he got married and was then at Paull Point so did he come home on,leave and then return to France/Belgium and then get injured.
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Lucas:Exhall,Foleshill
Bray:Foleshill,Coventry
Harrison:Coventry,Derbyshire,Liverpool
Chaplin:Birmingham,London
Allen:Wolvey,Birmingham,Coventry

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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 18:06 BST (UK) »
ah, OK - sorry, it didnt register that this was posted in 'Armed Forces'    :-[
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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 19:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Shannie,

Harry's service number in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment was 17778. At some point, after he was injured presumably, he was transferred to the Royal Defence Corps with the service number 53559.
At a guess, I would say that Paull Point Battery was where he was stationed with the RDC at the time he wrote the letter.

This is a link to a brief outline of the RDC's role.
http://www.1914-1918.net/royaldefencecorps.html

Phil
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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 21:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: shannie134 on Tuesday 03 June 08 17:49 BST (UK)
Hello All
I am trying to find information about my Great Grandad.
I know he joined the Birmingham Pals
Pvt Henry (harry)Allen 53559.
My Mum has a letter which he sent from Paull Point Battery,Hedon Hull on 2.6.1919.
He had got married in Birmingham on 17.8.1918
Any help or information would be great.
Thanks
Shannie

Can  I just point out to avoid any confusion....that the tern Pvt is American...the correct term for British soldiers is Pte...If you look on any service records etc you may not realise what you are looking at!!!

Have you seen this book??

http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/?product_id=129
One more charge and then be dumb,
            When the forts of Folly fall,
        May the victors when they come
            Find my body near the wall.

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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 22:47 BST (UK) »
Phil
Thanks for the info,I knew had 2 numbers just mixed them up
Thanks for advised and link

Shannie


Scrimnet
Thanks for advise re short hand and yes I have that book
Shannie
Lucas:Exhall,Foleshill
Bray:Foleshill,Coventry
Harrison:Coventry,Derbyshire,Liverpool
Chaplin:Birmingham,London
Allen:Wolvey,Birmingham,Coventry

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Re: Birmingham Pals
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 June 08 08:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Shannie
Quote from: shannie134 on Tuesday 03 June 08 18:02 BST (UK)
I have not been able to find his details on Ancestry.

You can download his Medal Index Card from TNA for £3.50.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03l1/

 Ancestry are adding them all, in the long term.

Wendi  :)

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BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
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