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long shot - John Potts of allendale
« on: Tuesday 03 June 08 17:24 BST (UK) »
this is probably pointless as it is an extra common name and i don't have much info to start with, i will give all the info i have and see if anyone can dig anything else up on him. i have the later census records after he married but i have no info on his parents.

Name:  John Potts
Birth:  abt 1850 - Allendale Town, Northumberland, England 
Death:  1900 
married : hannah hogarth of rookhope, durham.

i'm not very hopefull but you never know
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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 17:35 BST (UK) »
possible
1851
HO107/2415/18/3.
margaret potts age 22. b. chesterwood hayden,northumberland. head.(married farmers wife)
john potts age 11mnths. b. allendale. son.
living at allendale town.
also on the same page is an elizabeth potts age 34. b. allendale. occ. dressmaker(unm)
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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 18:49 BST (UK) »
Do you have their marriage cert showing John's father's name and occupation?
Dec 1873  Auckland    10a   449
HOGARTH    Hannah   POTTS    John   

     
That would help




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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 18:58 BST (UK) »
Here's a possible baptism for Hannah, although in 1881 census she says b.1853

Stanhope,  St. Thomas the Apostle
30 Mar 1845 Hannah Hogarth, of Rookhope, daughter of James Hogarth (miner) by his wife Elizabeth

edit, no, too early, have found this Hannah in earlier census, think yours was daughter of John & Frances?

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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 21:30 BST (UK) »
i have hannahs parents as john hogarth and lucy currey
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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 22:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Marie,

Yes there are three Hannah Hogarths in the 1861/71 census all born Rookhope Stanhope, 1859, 1861 and yours 1854!
I see one of John & Hannah's children was called Lucy after Hannah's mother.

I still think you maybe need the marriage cert to show John's father's name and occupation to confirm that is the right family that Wozzle found in the census
although I can't see another John Potts
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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 22:52 BST (UK) »
Here's 1861 for the same family Wozzle found in 1851

RG9/3861  Folio 89  Page  28
Allendale Town, Allendale, Northumberland
POTTS
William             head m 38 Joiner & Cartwright  Cumberland Brampton?
Margaret          wife  m 32                           Haydon, Northumberland
John                  son      11  Scholar              Allendale   "
Margaret           dau        9        "                        "
Edward Thomas  son      3        "                         "
Isabella              dau     9 months                        "

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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 23:07 BST (UK) »
Think this confirms him though, as the family is in Bolts Burn in 1871  :)

RG10/4950 folio 12 page 17
Bolts Burn, Stanhope, Durham
POTTS
William        head m 44 Joiner at Iron Mines  Cumberland Lanercost
Margaret     wife  m 42                 Northumberland Haydon Bridge
John            son   s  21 Ironstone Miner   
Edward T    son       13 Railway Gate Keeper   
Isabella      dau       10 Scholar                       
Ellenor E     dau         4     "
William J      son         4
Hannah OLIVER  nurse child 10 months             Stanhope
all Wm's children born Northumberland Allenheads

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Re: long shot - John Potts of allendale
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 23:43 BST (UK) »
1851 census Margaret Potts is listed as Joiner's wife not Farmer's wife
(not Wozzle's fault,  it is a bit hard to read!)

Here's William in 1851.. indexed as Botts   ::)

1851 HO107/2388 fol. 181 p.33
Chester House, Stanhope, Durham
in household of Mary Moffat
William Potts  lodger  mar 26 Joiner & Cartwright   Cumberland


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