HELP plzzz.. 1861 census

[Eds]

  Trying to find John and Sarah Lister. They had children in Ashton under Lyne (Dan 1852 n William Henry 1854).
  Daniel was living in Wombwell in 1871 n 1881 census

   Thanking you
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[Ecneps]

Daniel's a bit of a puzzle isn't he?  In 1871 he gives his place of birth as Barnsley, Yorks.
Can't find a John & Sarah Lister.
This could be a coincidence, indexed under Linter but looks like Lister on image
possible second wife for John? 

1861 census RG09 piece 3452 folio 33 page 11
Hampshire Row, Worsborough, Yorks

LISTER
John          Head  Mar 39  Coal Miner     HocktonYorkshire  ~ (edit Flockton)
Elizabeth   Wife  Mar 25             Italy British Subject
Williamson   Son      4     Scholar     Ashton Under Lyne Lancashire 
Mary            Dau       3  Scholar       Worsbrough Yorkshire 
Grace              "         1                      Barnsley  Yorkshire       
Dan STONES     Visitor  8  Scholar    Ashton Under Lyne Lancs


Barbara

[heywood]

It's all a bit of a puzzle isn't it 

That looks good Barbara.

Family Search has an entry though for Dan Lister- parents John and Sarah and also William Henry.

Free BMD has births for William Henry and Williamson and Dan Lester.

Elizabeth here is very young and I wonder if it is a second marriage- not that it would explain Stone.

Just looking for Elizabeth b Italy - found one in Great Bolton, Lancs - wife of Julias Caesar 

[heywood]

there is a Free BMD marriage possibility
1856 Ashton
John Lister and Elizabeth Williamson.

As the family don't seem to be traceable and you are asking for 1861 only, I wonder did they all emigrate and leave Dan behind?

[Ecneps]

I can't find Daniel Stones in any later census....

very odd

possible second wife for John? 

Elizabeth here is very young and I wonder if it is a second marriage- not that it would explain Stone.

Possible - maybe Sarah died and he then married Elizabeth - Daniel and William Henry's births were before the 1856 marriage , but where is William Henry in 1861? 

Barbara

[Ecneps]

Just looking for Elizabeth b Italy - found one in Great Bolton, Lancs - wife of Julias Caesar 

Oh Heywood, don't believe it 


Anyway, here's a possible death for Sarah if they were living in Barnsley
Mar 1855      Lister    Sarah         Barnsley    9c   9_

[heywood]

but he married Elizabeth in Ashton - he may have commuted of course!

Besides the Julius Caesar episode, I was tracking a John and Sarah Ann Lister who may have been possibilities. They became Sister John Anthony and Sister Sarah Ann Anthony in one census. Sister/Lister and Anthony from previous household    I thought they had entered a convent.
It's an interesting pastime 

[Ecneps]

I think to clear some of this up a couple of certificates are required, Eds, don't you think, unless you have a bit more to go on.

At least then we'd know Sarah's maiden name


Barbara

[heywood]

just visiting Daniel in 1871 and there in the index is the following:
1871 RG10; Piece: 4075; Folio: 32; Page: 12

Daniel Lister 45 yrs b 1826 Flockton Yorkshire with his family in Ashton under Lyne.
I think the 1861 John that you found Barbara was born Flockton not Hockton