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« Reply #90 on: Sunday 06 July 08 07:52 BST (UK) »



Seems to me he liked Liverpool !!  :D :D :D :D :D

A man of taste I'd say !!  :)
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« Reply #91 on: Sunday 06 July 08 07:53 BST (UK) »


Here's Lillians grave .....

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« Reply #92 on: Sunday 06 July 08 08:11 BST (UK) »




fillupe ... did you find Paul Eagle Star also on the earlier ships manifests ?? :)
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« Reply #93 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

So many facinating people, photographs!! ;D

Hey, I was having a wee read over this topic - been trying to see if I could spot anything more about Paul in Newspapers etc...

And it occurred to me...we are trying to find out about what happened to him after his death etc....but I wondered, what else do we know or want to know about him before joining Cody?  And I wondered if you already  knew who his wife and son were?

In summary (since I already got it  ;D  )
I think his son might have been Thomas or William, or Thomas William Eagle Star born 5 Oct 1889 Rosebud.
I think I see, Paul, wife Yellow Leaf and son William - in Jun 1891 Indian Schedule. Would this be right? How do those schedules work - is it possible for someone to be listed but not actually be there? Because I know Paul was in England must be very soon after that, since he died in August 1891......... ???

All Rosebud - Brule-Sioux :
Thomas W Eagle Star b 1889/1890  appeared to live from 1892 until 1908 without his mother and mostly with an Uncle named John Kills Alive and then (John's brother(?) Thomas Kills Alive.
Twice though (1906 and 1907)  I see this Thomas W Eagle Star listed with grandparents named Antelope and Ada. Not sure whose side they come in under, Thomas' father or mother? Ada was 14 yrs older than Antelope who was born abt 1848.

In 1908 TW is on his own. In 1909 he is married to Lucy.  They appear to have one son b 1909 who dies bf 1915, when they have another son.   In 1917  I think TW enlists in WW1 as William b 5 Oct 1889, and states a wife & 1 child, Rosebud  Reservation.  In 1918-ish he has a daughter. And the wife Lucy appears to have died around the same time.

In 1921. Thomas appears to take a wife,  Laura Crooked Foot - who is  half his age. No new children appear before 1924. Then between 1924 and 1932 they have 5 children. The youngest......is named Paul Eagle Star. It was this little  lad whom I came across first in a general search on the name, so I just followed him and his father back.  I won't mention the other children here, since some could be still living.

ANyway, my thought - if Thomas W is our Paul's son, and Thomas W  had children -  some of whom could still be living, can we see if we can track them down.... Maybe they know if Grandad Paul's remains came home and when/from where?

Cheers  ;D
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« Reply #94 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:49 BST (UK) »


Oh wow Ambly !! .... would that be cool or what ??

Thank you ..... that all makes sense to me ( believe it or not  :) ) Indian families are so entwined and hard to figure out !! :) but I think you've got it !!  :D :D :D

I don't have the manifest ... so I don't know when he travelled ... thats what I was looking for last night when I found George C in South America !!  ::)

I'll try and find when he travelled but I'm pretty sure he had been there for a while before he died !! but it's a possibility he could have been listed and not physically there !

There's loads here to go through .... thank you !!

Annie   :)
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« Reply #95 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

You're welcome  ;D  ;) Boy, you're not wrong abt the twining! I've learned a lot about Indian Census  by looking up this Thomas. Actually if it wasn't for him being consistently with Uncles John and Thomas Kills  Alive,  I might have got really muddled with wife changes, missing children  etc.

I'll PM you the names of Thomas William's children by his 2 wives.  He does feel "right though, doesn't he? Wonder if Phillip has heard of him?

There is one name I came across - the name of one of John Kills Alive daughters - "Look The Nation". I'm sure I read that someplace else (a photograph?) but I can't think where, she was age 14 in 1892.

Must be off to my bunk in a mo - where a hottie awaits.   It's blimmin cold here, very frosty.

Cheers
AMBLY

PS Hottie water bottle not hotttie tottie  ;D  ;D  ;D
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« Reply #96 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:34 BST (UK) »


Thanks again Ambly ! ....

you deserve a hottie after all that ... whatever kind you choose !!  :D :D ::) ::)

Annie  :)
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« Reply #97 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:36 BST (UK) »


Now this is what I was talking about !!!!!! ... I knew it had to be in the British papers about him .....  :) but nothing from the Sheffield papers  .....yet !!

Shaun sent me these !!

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« Reply #98 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:39 BST (UK) »


and ............. !
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