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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #18 on: Friday 06 June 08 06:12 BST (UK) »


Here's a snippet .....

Surrounded by the Enemy was an Oglala Lakota warrior of South Dakota whose  people had fought against Custer's Seventh Cavalry 11 years before - the horseman performed daring gun-slinging and horse-riding stunts during his time with the Wild West show -  that counted Queen Victoria as a fan. At 6ft7in he must have been an impressive sight ! 
 He died in his teepee in Salford of a lung infection aged 22.  His body was taken to Hope Hospital from where it vanished. 
 
Another two members of Buffalo Bill's circus Long Wolf and Paul Eagle Star were  buried at Brompton Cemetery. Their bodies were taken home to the Black Hills South Dakota more than 10 years ago. 
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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 June 08 06:26 BST (UK) »


Now here is the weirdest thing ..........   ::) ::) ::) ::)

On my Charge of the Light Brigade thread I had a picture of the survivors and Buffalo Bill ...... when I took it to the Buffalo Bill museum ... they were happy because they had never seen it before  :D
Plus they didn't know about the paper weight I found out about - that had a picture also .....  :)

well try this on for size   ...... scroll to Lot # 25 ........

http://www.mortonandeden.com/pdfcats/25web.pdf

Well to cut a long story short .... fillupe sent me the url for the Denver Library that had a picture of the survivors AND his Great Grandfather !! when I looked - my picture was a cutoff of the bigger picture - taken at the same time ......  :) is that cool or what ? ... now we have to identify everybody !!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ( though I must admit I know some of them !!  ;) )

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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 16:44 BST (UK) »


Ambly found this ........  ::)

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This one seems to infer Lone Wolf was returned in 1997? After Grave discovered 1995?

http://openweb.tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/1997-9/1997-09-25-CBS-19.html
http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/diglib-fulldisplay.pl?SID=20080616753997802&code=tvn&RC=361656&Row=1

Wondered if Paul Eagle Star was returned same time ....  Seems odd, that Lone Wolf is so documented yet nothing on Paul Eagle Star!

I had looked into Lone Wolf ... but couldn't find anything on our Paul !! but I didn't see what she found !!

WOUNDED KNEE – Chief Long Wolf is buried near here at Pine Ridge Reservation. Long Wolf died in 1892 in London, England, while traveling with Buffalo Bill Cody's Wild West Show. He was buried with 17-month-old Star, a Sioux girl who also died in London. In 1997, the remains of Lone Wolfe were returned here to his ancestral burial grounds.

I had looked at this because it mentioned Red Shirt's relative ......... a Medicine Man named Wilmer Mesteth

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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 16:58 BST (UK) »



There is a person in Florida who seems to have some information ..... might be worth an email !!

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I have recently been in contact with the Supervisor of Brompton Cemetery, London, and I can pass on the information that it is a matter of official record that Surrounded by the Enemy was buried there on the 15th of December 1887, and NOT in Salford.

I recently wrote an article for the Thunderbird North American Indian Society about this, so if anyone wants the details, just ask.

Four other Indians from the Wild West show were buried at Brompton. Of these, the remains of Paul Eagle Star, Long Wolf and a little girl named Star Ghost Dog were repatriated to South Dakota during the 1990s. Insofar as I am able to determine, just one - an eighteen month old boy named Red Penny - is still there, but my investigations are continuing


http://lbha.proboards12.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bill&thread=2762&page=2

I checked the Thunderbird North American Indian Society but couldn't find the article but I found  a book that maybe of interest !!

http://www.tnais.com/bbis/ghosts_f.html
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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

Also found this:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970923/ai_n14131062
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970506/ai_n14109072

Wonder if the Worcestershire housewife is still contactable!

Cheers  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 23:51 BST (UK) »
Did you see these too:

http://www.dountoothers.org/sioux91007.html
http://shrinkalink.com/24622
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19970601&slug=2542291

It's all about Lone Wolf - no mention of Paul Eagle Star, but actually little or no mention of Star Ghost Dog either........


Cheers  ;D
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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 00:25 BST (UK) »


Why does this stuff fascinate me so much ??

What a wonderful story of sticktoitiveness !! :D :D
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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 20:03 BST (UK) »


I came across this site .... and I'm still going through it !!

http://home.epix.net/~landis/

But fillupe says he wrote to them and this was the reply !!  ......

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Cumberland County Historical Society, the home county of the Carlisle Indian Industrial School (1879-1918)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_Indian_Industrial_School

Thank you for your inquiry.  I was not able to find Paul Eagle Star in the photo archives by name. I checked our computer file and he was not listed.  I started through our photos to see if I could find the group photo that the cropped photo came from.  I found it in our first school album.  The photo number is PA-CH1-037b.  It is a group photo labeled "Rosebud Sioux Boys - Entered Carlisle Nov. 1882."  There are fifteen boys and young men in the group, all dressed in the Carlisle uniform. Unfortunately, no one is identified.  Paul is in the middle of the group and appears to be one of the older boys.  I did spend a little time in the library checking to see if he has a school record at the National Archives in Washington.  His name was not listed.  I then checked our index of the school publications and found three references to him.  The first was in June 1887.  He is in a list of students who donated money to the school.  He donated $10. The second reference is in publication dated Nov. 25, 1887.  He gave a speech at a program in the chapel at Carlisle.  The third was from July 26, 1889.  It says that he was working in the agency blacksmith shop at the Rosebud Agency, Dakota.  I looked at other photos of Sioux students but did not see him in any of those.
 
So I think that I was able to answer a few of your questions.  Paul Eagle Star arrived at the school Nov. 1882.   He was a Sioux from the Rosebud Agency in Dakota.  He left the school about 1888 and returned to the Rosebud Agency and worked in the blacksmith shop.  It does not appear that he took a Christian name since the three references to him use the name Paul Eagle Star.  He joined the Buffalo Bill Wild West Show around 1890 and died as the result of an injury during a show in Scotland in 1891.
 
If you would like a 300 dpi scan on a CD or an 8 x 10 digital print of the group photo, the price is $15.00 plus $2.50 for mailing.  I would like to see the photo of Paul during his days with the Buffalo Bill Wild West Show.
 
Our Indian School Researcher is out this week due to a death in her family.  I will check with her when she returns to see if she has any other information about Paul.
 
Best to you,
Photo Curator


I've also been looking for Tom Cunningham .... haven't found him yet !!  :-\

"Tom Cunningham has a lot of information about the hostiles" that visited the British Isles. Now the term "Hostiles" was a marketing term Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show used to describe the Indians. Many of these folks were actually Prisoners of War that were released from military prison and paroled to the Show. Some of the Indians that toured with the 1st tour (1887) were associated with the Battle of The Little Bighorn (1876). Those that toured with the 1891 show were associated with the Ghost Dance movement and the Wounded Knee Massacre (1890)"

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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 21:48 BST (UK) »


Found these including my Red Shirt !!  :D .... don't know what to do with them though !!  ::)

Red Shirt1-19; CS-83

Pine Ridge Sioux boys entered Carlisle Nov. 18821-37

Sioux boys from Pine Ridge Agency1-2 entered Carlisle Nov. 1882

Rosebud Sioux boys entered Carlisle Nov. 18821-37

Lone Wolf, BuffaloCS-100
Lone Wolf, EmilyCS-100
Lone Wolf, NathanCS-100

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