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Re: Paul Eagle Star and Buffalo Bill Cody
« Reply #108 on: Monday 07 July 08 02:26 BST (UK) »
Annie & Ambly - I don't have any information on Paul Eagle Star's family. I have post a message on Legends Of America, Native American's Forum asking for information of his descendants but it's been a 'dry well' so far.

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« Reply #109 on: Monday 07 July 08 03:00 BST (UK) »


fillupe ... I sent you the stuff Ambly sent me ... when she comes on - you can ask her about them if you need to !!  :)

but it looks like them to me !!  :D :D
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« Reply #110 on: Monday 07 July 08 04:15 BST (UK) »


This is the only crossing I can find in the time frame for Paul !! I don't know if he's on this manifest ... but I know Bill Cody and Redshirt are !! I can't get it right now ... can anybody else check it for me please ??

Departing Hull Arriving NY 21 May 1888 Persian Monarch
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« Reply #111 on: Monday 07 July 08 06:43 BST (UK) »
Annie - I believe that 1888 arrivals may have been some of the B.B.W.W.S. troops returning from their 1887 tour.  Even though the tours lasted over a year the Indians were not allowed to be gone that long as many were 'Prisoners of War' and on release from confinement. Chief Charging Thunder was one of the tour Indians that decided to leave the tour and stay in the U.K..  In addition to that there was some level of public concern and/or 'Christian Outrage' that 'Tour Indians' were being mistreated. This concern had a lot to do with the number of deaths that occurred among the Tour Indians. Several died from poor health due to such wasting diseases as tuberculosis. Because of this preception there was significant public pressure to prevent the Indians from joining 1891-92 tour altogether. Public concern was overruled by the Commission of Indian Affairs.

I believe Paul Eagle Star first joined the show for the 1891-92 tour. Information that was provided by the Carlisle School suggest he was there from 1882 until 1887 where he was schooled and trained to be a blacksmith. He did return to the Rosebud Reservation and work as a blacksmith by 1889. Early newspaper reports stated he was killed in the Wounded Knee Massacre (12/29/1890) which of course he wasn't.

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« Reply #112 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 06:09 BST (UK) »
Annie - This is a 1887 photo of B.B.W.W.S. performers aboard a sailing ship. This Merritt & Wagner photograph is displayed at 'American Treasures of The Library of Congress' web site. It's of reasonable quality but low display resolution so it's difficult to make any individual identifications. Hopefully I'll be able to obtain a higher resolution version.

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« Reply #113 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie
Have sent you the names on the Persian Monarch manifest, off list!

I have been googling (again!) , trying out all the names from those Census re: Thomas William Eagle Star, suspected son of Paul...... Trying to find out who Antelope and Ada were, but not having much luck, thinking they might be the parents of either Paul or his wife.

Can't find a thing on "Yellow Leaf", the 1891 wife of Paul Eagle Star!

But I did find this:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sdtripp/lucy_edith_eagle_hawk.htm

An obit for a Lucy Edith Eagle Hawk who died in 2003. It mentions she has a surviving brother whose name exactly matches the 2nd youngest of Thomas William Eagle Star (which I sent you by PM). And Thomas's also had a daughter named Lucy, the 3rd youngest.  The area on the obit is Winner and Ideal in SD - which I gather is all around the Rosebud area??

Could Lucy and her brother be grandchildren of Paul ? And maybe the brother is still living!!

Also was there ever any mention that Paul had any siblings?
I came across an Iver Eagle Star, also Brule , He died in 1934 age 69 (so born abt 1865), He was also a Preacher,
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sdlyman/Cemeteries/native.htm

cheers  ;D
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« Reply #114 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:51 BST (UK) »


That's terrific Ambly ! .... and theres more Eagle Hawks at the same cemetery !

http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/sd/tripp/cemeteries/holyspirit.txt

Also .... the brother is a Sr so there must  be a Jr somewhere !!  :-\

Partial list of some of the ministers deacons and lay leaders serving the Episcopal parish

1890 to the 1990's

Luke C. Walker, Joseph DuBray, David W. Clark, Henry H. Whipple, J.B.DeCory, Alfred Barber, Paul H.Barbour, Ed P. Pretty Head, Wallace H. Zephier, W.B. Roberts, (Bishop) A.J.Klein, C.M. Jones, Cyril C. Rouilliard, Iver Eagle Star, Reuban Estes, Conrad Gesner, Thomas Hemminger, Isaac High Elk, John DeWitt, Thomas J. Rouillard, Paul Chekpa,priest, C.B. Harnsberger, John Grass-lay leader, Clyde Estes, William Bears Heart, George Selwyn, Sister Jeanette Kastorfff, John Lurvy. In the 90's Rev.James Pearson.

Burial records 1965-1978

As submitted by Leola Peterson, Lower Brule, 1997

Holy Comforter Episcopal Church, LowerBrule   In new cemetery-       May-1965 to July-1988

Another Eagle Star in 1969 and another 1991

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« Reply #115 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 03:50 BST (UK) »

I found 1887 Rosebud census !! woohoo ! .... but theres a lot to go through !!  ::) ::) ::) ... I 've just done the first 4 pages - nothing there yet !!

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« Reply #116 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 04:50 BST (UK) »


This is the only Antelope I can find !!  :-\ but he's a Hunkpapa .... though they all seem to mix and match .... all I know is ... he is Sioux !!

Running Antelope ... scroll down ......

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More pictures of Oglalas !! ( just so happens our friend Red Shirt is in there !!  ::) )

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