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CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« on: Saturday 31 May 08 15:36 BST (UK) »
:)Please could someone check the marriage of William Caseley(Casely) and Sarah Urch -  St James Bristol ? Dec 1833 and  looking for confirmation of parents/witnesses
Many thanks
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Re: CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 May 08 18:47 BST (UK) »
Hi KandS,

I can`t help with the parents and witnesses but the marriage took place on 30th December 1833 at St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol - by Licence.


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Re: CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 June 08 14:19 BST (UK) »
Dear Sue,
Thank you for your extremely helpful response to our enquiry.
We had, up until now misleading information regarding the marriage but with the Parish and Church data from you we can continue our search.
Incidentally, should you come across anyone researching Urch in Kewstoke (Somerset), with the support of the local history society, we now hold a complete record of Urch families in the Parish.
Always happy to return research favours.
Many thanks,
Keith & Sue
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 June 08 14:24 BST (UK) »
My pleasure Keith & Sue  ;D


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Re: CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 June 08 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,
If your William Casely was born in Draycott, Somerset circa 1802 and his and Sarah's children were Charles Casely born in Draycott in 1834 and Mary Ann Casely born in Wookey, Somerset in 1843 then it is more likely that the following can be of help to you.

I have carried out quite an extensive research on the Urch name.
Sarah Ann Casely nee Urch was born in Westbury, Somerset in 1809; Her parents were a Richard & Ann Urch nee Coombs or Coombes.
Richard Urch was baptised in Westbury on 29 May 1774 and Ann Coombes or Coombs in 1772. They married on 29 May 1797 in Westbury.
If you need any more info I may be able to help.
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Alun Urch 

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 22:50 BST (UK) »
Have also researched the Urch family of Westbury extensively. Wm Caseley & Sarah Urch are on my tree. Would like to get in touch with any other descendants of Richard Urch & Ann Coombes. Thank you Sue for info on the Casely marriage at St Mary Redcliffe which I had spent ages looking for. 
I now find that Sarah Urch's sister Ann married David Walter at Bedminster in 1824 and her brother Thomas married a bigamist, Eleanor Harris, at Mary Redcliffe in 1834. The other siblings all seem to have married in Westbury.  Does anyone know what the Bristol connection (if any) was? Could the parents Richard & Ann Urch have lived there for a while?
From Florence Urch

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Re: CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 July 08 01:06 BST (UK) »
For Florence Urch,
Hi,
I refer to your message of 8 July and have found that Thomas, the son of Richard & Ann Coombes was still residing with his parents in the 1841 Census. He could have married Eleanor Harris and decided to return home after finding out about his bigamist wife. Do you know for sure it was this Thomas?
I have raised a spreadsheet on Excel and have listed all possible Urch Baptisms and have been trying to integrate their marriages. It is extremely difficult to identify the right person as there are so many John's, Samuels, Thomas's, William's and Richard's. Some of them were baptised around the same time. For example, I have discovered that there was a Thomas baptised in Bristol  on 10 March 1799 of parents William & Susanna Sweetman  or Swetnam. This Thomas married an Emma Cundy of Philiok, Cornwall and they had a daughter named Susanna Sweetman. This was easy to figure out as her name was her Grandmother's maiden name. But they not all so easy to figure out.
If Richard & Ann Coombes son, Thomas, married this Eleanor Harris, do you know if he obtained a divorce or was the marriage annulled.
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Alun Urch

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Re: CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 July 08 01:20 BST (UK) »
For Florence Urch

Hi again

I have gathered you are descended from another son of Richard & Ann Coombes. John Urch who was baptised on 15 September 1805 and who married a Charlotte Wall on 1 May 1827.

I can supply all of the other siblings and possibly their Ascendents & Descendents if you want.
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Alun Urch
 

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Re: CASELEY/URCH marriage look up please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 July 08 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Alun,
Thanks for your reply. There is a full (and fascinating) report of the Eleanor Harris Bigamy Trial at Bodmin on http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CORNISH-GEN/2007-11/1195607943. It says Thomas Urch is of Westbury. I have extracted all the Westbury baptisms for Urch & there are only two possible Thomas' at about the right time. 'Mine' and one bapt 17.3.1816, he is only 18 in 1834, the date of the bigamous marriage, Eleanor being 33. Also I think he married  a Mary Mapstone at Bridgewater reg dist in 1840.  'My' Thomas would have been 31, a much better match for age, he died in 1856 at westbury, apparently still single, in his will he leaves his property between his siblings.  As far as I can tell he is the unfortunate 'husband', probably put off women for life!
The trial report says that his parents went to see Hall the main prosecution witness in Bristol.  This, & the fact that Thos had some siblings who also married in Bristol made me wonder if Richard Urch & Ann (Coombs) lived there for a while? However I think it unlikely.
I am descended from Fredk, son of John Urch. Fredk emigrated to MI, USA in 1876 leaving behind only his eldest son, my Gt Grandfather, hence I am in the Westcountry not in America!
I would like any details of descendants please.  I have done some work on them, especially those in the US, but a double check would be good.
Many Thanks, Florence Urch