Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress

[karenlee]

This Mary's parents are still together up to and including the 1901 Census.

See .......... told you it'd be fun mab.......

L-J, like the theory, but not sure which Mary best fits now.  I know the first one is right in terms of birthplace but birth year appears to be too far out, whereas the second Mary is right in terms of age but birthplace is just Glasgow.

Hmmmm what do you think now?

Karenlee

[karenlee]

Moving kind of sideways....


1881 Census Scotland Renfrewshire Greenock
ED8/Reg # 564/1
6 Dalrymple Street

FULLORTEN
Elizabeth Head 52 Broker born Greenock Renfrew
Margaret HIGHERTY 32 General Servant born Greenock Renfrew
Ellen LAGUERA 28 Daughter? born Greenock Renfrew
Jessie STRUTHERS 16 Niece General Servant born Greenock Renfrew
Daniel BAIRD 16 Servant born Greenock Renfrew

1891 Census Scotland Renfrewshire Greenock
ED1/ Reg # 564/2
24 Dalrymple Street

FULLERTON
Elizabeth Head 80 ( maybe should be 60 ) Restaurant Keeper born Greenock Renfrew
Ellen LEGUIRA Dau 40 Daughter General Servant born Greenock Renfrew
William DUFFY 30 Boarder Holder Up Shipyard born Greenock Renfrew
Malcolm DOW 6 Great Grand Son born Greenock Renfrew
Alex DOW 5 Great Grand Son born Greenock Renfrew

Malcolm  and Alex are the sons of Malcolm and Jessie DOW or DAW of Greenock.

In 1901 Ellen LEGUIRA is running a boarding house in West Breast Street..... is that address a hint as to the real source of income for Ellen?

Still trying to link both Ellen and Jessie to Elizabeth

Karenlee

[Lumber-Jack]

This is a pickle! A key might be in the address she gave for her mother to  Inspector Berry. I have put it under a magnifying glass and it could be Raukine's or Rankine's Lane of  or at Baillieston.  Baillieston , Bothwell  and Holytown form a small triangle with Bothwell closer to Baillieston which in turn is closer to Glasgow centre. Was one of them the birth registration recording district? Where is or was  South Linridge with respect to Baillieston? If there is a strong geographic distinction, we could have an answer. (Another wilder possibility is that Alex and Janet had two Mary's , one dying as a newborn but christened and replaced by ours later whose christening we have not yet found!) She was also under great stress when she gave her age as 27 to the Inspector in 1882...but you are right ...Mary of Bothwell/Holytown is getting too old.....or was it another lie of  job necessity from a confused and sick woman......she was somewhat consistent about her age in later census references. But then she was getting older and  perhaps no longer felt the need to lie about her age  as she was failing or not wishing to keep her job in her particular line of work. I do not think that I have helped much! BUT wait a minute... the Quarrier report  cites receiving a letter from the matron of the Greenock House of Refuge with the mother(Mary) present  asking about Henry on 21 Nov 1887 which says that she was in the Dalbeth Refuge "some time before" 21 Nov 1891. So too was "Bothwell Mary" the only Mary Gilchrist in that refuge in that census, and may be again in 1914. Bothwell Mary (or her baby sister) must be ours. Do we have a census record close to 1914 for her?  L-J

[Lumber-Jack]

I meant 29 Nov 1891 as the first reference in my last post...getting late. Thanks for the Fullorten lookups Karenlee...I guess Jessie Dow is a married Jessie Struthers, Elizabeth's niece. L-J

[karenlee]

Hey L-J

On the 1881 Census Rankine's Land and Rankine's Land Attic are enumeration districts for Old Monkland Lanarkashire.  No idea where though.... not much help with that, sorry.

Baptism records for a Mary GILCHRIST around 1850 ish as follows......

1 18/07/1847 GILCHRIST MARY ALEXANDER GILCHRIST/JANET HOWISON FR793 F Bothwell /LANARK 625/ 0030 0366
 
2 18/08/1850 GILCHRIST MARY THOMAS GILCHRIST/GRACE HAMILTON FR1863 F Lanark /LANARK 648/ 0060 0325
 
3 13/07/1851 GILCHRIST MARY JOHN GILCHRIST/MARION EDMOND FR3743 CHILD 1 F Barony GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/ 0140 0271

4 14/04/1854 GILCHRIST MARY ROBERT GILCHRIST/JANE DALZELL FR6496 F Glasgow GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/001 0390 0554

The first on that list is the one that I followed up on because she was born Bothwell. So far she is the only one with a birthplace that matches any of our existing information.  The birth I posted earlier was because of the birth year, and the fact that it was Lanarkshire too.  Since then I have checked on the location and found that Shotts... which is where South Linridge is located... is quite a way from Bothwell etc.  So maybe not our Mary despite the birth year.

The last census taken and published for Scotland is the 1901 ... and I found one Mary in refuge there earlier.

Karenlee

[karenlee]

L-J ----- great picking up on the Jessie link...... I missed that one.......... WAAAAAAY to obvious.   My mind is looking beyond the obvious and searching for the obscure at the moment.

Got a list of the Mary GILCHRIST deaths from 1914 to 1935, there are a few likely ones.  Will post next time.

Karenlee

[karenlee]

With the baptisms from above.....

Thomas and Grace GILCHRIST... I tracked them until 1871 and then it appears that Grace dies and in 1881 Thomas has a new wife Charlotte.. they seem to stay around Govans.  Doesn't seem likely to be our Mary's parents.

John and Marion GILCHRIST......... not found with a daughter Mary at all.  There is a Mary with a John but no mother in 1871.  So probably not ours either.

Nothing useful yet on Robert and Jane GILCHRIST.

Karenlee

[Lumber-Jack]

Yes and if she was telling the truth to the Inspector my betting would be on Robet and Jane, but if it turns out to be them then how do we explain the Quarriers references I talked about earlier which seem to confirm Bothwell Mary? If it is not Robert and Jane then by elimination we are left I suppose with Bothwell Mary and my theory of  her lying to the policeman about her age as well as her father's early demise! or we ( you!) have not found her which is getting to be unlikely given that the search has covered the censuses and the baptismal records. Deaths may help too. L-J

[karenlee]

I will track the Bothwell Mary and see what everyone else makes of her....

Baptism 18/07/1847 Bothwell Lanarkshire to parents Alexander and Janet nee HOWISON

1851 Census Scotland Ayrshire Auchinleck
ED2/ Reg # 577/ Page 6

GILCHRIST
Alexander Head Marr 34 Flesher born Libberton Edinburgh
Janet Wife Marr 29 born Carronshore Stirlingshire
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 4 born Bothwell Lanarkshire
Mary Dau Unmarr 3 born Bothwell Lanarkshire
James Son Unmarr 1 born Bothwell Lanarkshire

1861 Census Scotland Ayrshire Auchinleck
ED3/ Reg # 577/
Main Street

GILCHRIST
Alex Head Marr 42 Inn Keeper and Flesher born Libberton Lanarkshire
Janet Wife Marr 38 Inn Keeper and Flesher's Wife born Old Monkland Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 15 Servant born Bothwell Lanarkshire
Mary Dau Unmarr 13 Scholar born Bothwell Lanarkshire
James Son Unmarr 11 Scholar born Bothwell Lanarkshire
Janet Dau Unmarr 9 Scholar born Bothwell Lanarkshire
Andrew Son Unmarr 7 Scholar born Auchinleck Ayrshire
William Son Unmarr 5 born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Alexander Son Unmarr 3 born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Janet Dau Unmarr 1 born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Mary HOWIESON Serv Unmarr 19 Domestic Servant born Old Monkland Lanarkshire

1871 Census Scotland Ayrshire Sorn
ED10/ Reg # 613
Stewart Place

GILCHRIST
Alexander Head Marr 55 Coal Miner born Libberton East Lothian
Janet Wife Marr 50 born Carron Stirlingshire
Mary Dau Unmarr 22 Domestic Servant born Holyton Lanarkshire
Andrew Son Unmarr 17 Coal Miner born Auchinleck Ayrshire
William Son Unmarr 15 Coal Drawer born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Alexander Son Unmarr 13 Coal Drawer born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Jane Dau Unmarr 11 Scholar born Auchinleck Ayrshire
John Son Unmarr 10 Scholar born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Robert Son Unmarr 5 born Auchinleck Ayrshire
John BROWN Grand Son Unmarr 1mth born Sorn Ayrshire

1881 Census Scotland Ayrshire Auchinleck
ED3/ Reg # 577
Main Street

GILCHRIST
Alexander Head Marr 64 Coal Miner born Lewistown Edinburgh
Janet Wife Marr 60 born Carron Stirlingshire
Jane Dau Unmarr 21 Domestic Servant ( lately ) born Auchinleck Ayrshire
John Son Unmarr 19 Iron Miner born Auchinleck Ayrshire
Robert Son Unmarr 15 Coal Miner born Auchinleck Ayrshire

So it seems that this Mary was at home until after the 1871 Census which would fit with what we already know about her being in the Refuge for the 1881.  Note how in 1871 she gives birthplace as Holyton... that covers both bases with birthplaces that she gave later on.

Think this may be her.

Karenlee