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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #198 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:40 BST (UK) »


Checked the 1881 Census and have found the address  Langloan Rankines Land, Old Monkland Middle District Lanarkshire.
But no GHILCHRIST of any spelling....

There was also a Rankine's Land address in Stirlingshire.

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #199 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:50 BST (UK) »
Good go at it Karenlee...I wish I could help but I've lost the plot...sorry  :P I need to go back and read from the beginning again. By then you will have probably found everything  ;D

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #200 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much Karenlee, the Dalbeth reference is spot on ...I am sure that one is our Mary....I suspect the Royal Asylum is too but I too do not know how to access the detailed record. Don't know what to do about Rankine's but Baillieston ( a "suburb" of Glasgow) may hold the search clue. Best wishes, Lumber-Jack
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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #201 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:57 BST (UK) »

Not likely mab..... read on please do....... I need all the help I can get...... in more ways than one. ;D ;D

I am currently looking for our Mary in the early census.  Trying to find a Mary with both parents in 1861 but only with mother in 1871 just to try and eliminate some....... but with little success,

There is a Mary born Holyton that I am chasing at the moment..... come join the fun

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #202 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 03:02 BST (UK) »
 Hi Karenlee: Remember that Mary's birth place could be Bothwell and not Holyton according to your 1891 census find. L-J
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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #203 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 03:04 BST (UK) »

The Mary born Holyton looks like a no go at the moment, given the information that L-J posted earlier regarding our Mary's parents.  This Mary was born Holyton about 1849 to Alexander and Janet GILCHRIST, but both parents are still alive in Ayreshire up to and including the 1901.

Still looking for the one from the 1891 I found earlier born Bothwell

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #204 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 03:10 BST (UK) »


The only Mary GILCHRIST on the 1861 from Bothwell is................. daughter of Alexander and Janet born about 1848.............

Had to check the map after finding that ........ and Bothwell and Holytown are not that far away........ so this could be fun......NOT


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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #205 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 03:31 BST (UK) »
Well  Done Karenlee!!!!!  I think that you have just proved that Mary lied to Inspector Berry about her father in order perhaps to paint an even bleaker picture of the future for Henry so that he would be admitted to Quarriers and not sent back to her parents or she had problems with her father which may have led to her subsequent difficulties and she did not wish to acknowledge his existence. Speculation and we will never know.....but your frustrating search has been very worthwhile and I am very grateful. I would welcome the  census references for her parents and a birth record  for her if you have them. Now to find when she died. Thanks for such great work....Lumber-Jack
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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #206 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 03:35 BST (UK) »
This poor Mary just keeps getting older... a check of the Baptisms shows Mary GILCHRIST dau of Alex and Janet bapt 1847 Bothwell Lanark.

Pretty sure now that she is not our Mary

There is a Mary GILCHRIST born 1855 in Glasgow  Lanarkshire 9.20pm July 22.  South Linridge Lanarkshire, parents Thomas GILCHRIST a Farm Overseer aged 47 years born Cantie? Parish of Torphrichen?  Mother Barbara GILCHRIST maiden name WILSON, aged 38 born Bathgate.  Her 10th child.  1 boy and 8 girls living. Parents married Feb 1839 in Bathgate.

Most likely contender so far.  Will see what comes up on the census using this information

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