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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #180 on: Thursday 19 June 08 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi L-J

I looked a while ago but there's no sign of him on the 1881 census as Henry/Hendry etc G(h)ilc(h)rist in the Greenock area - or a good hit on Mary.

I might try a different approach but  :-\

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« Reply #181 on: Friday 20 June 08 00:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget, So far only Greenock and Taylors Close. The ship set sail from Glasgow. I have emailed Darlene to derive the source of this information and will post when I get it. I will be writing to Ethel and may get more and I will try the organisation which put the party of children together . Thanks a lot for helping yet again! Lumber-Jack
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« Reply #182 on: Friday 20 June 08 00:14 BST (UK) »
The info about Taylor's Close, Greenock is from his birth registration - I've just been looking at if - almost word for word what you quoted - formerly domestic servant, etc.

So Mary must have been at least in her late teens, I would think.

I've found four possible marriages for her in Paisley andLochwinnoch (near by Greenock) 1883, 1885 and 1888 (2). She could,of course have married in Lanarkshire or elsewhere  :(

Unfortunately SP is being very slow tonight so I might have to leave any more checking until tomorrow.


There was a Henry Gilchrist on the 1881 with grandparents in Midlothian but I wasn't too sure about that as the age was a bit out - but census ages can be misleading. Maybe Darlene  or Ethel might know of any possible relatives there.


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« Reply #183 on: Friday 20 June 08 02:43 BST (UK) »
Yes Gadget, it was from the birth registration "3 Taylor's Close " to be exact. If Mary was formerly a domestic servant, let us say presumably let go due to pregancy, then perhaps she might show up as a domestic servant on the nearest census prior to his birth date of 1878 in a more "respectable house" in Greenock? near to Taylor's Close? I am just clutching at straws! Thanks, Lumber-Jack
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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #184 on: Friday 20 June 08 02:47 BST (UK) »


Hi

On the 1881 Scottish Census there is  :-

Mary GHILCHRIST aged 23 Domestic Servant in the household of George, James and Margaret CROOKSTON, New Myrtle Park, Cathcart, Renfrewshire.  This Mary is born Glasgow Lanarkshire.

Not sure how far away Cathcart is from Greenock tho.

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« Reply #185 on: Friday 20 June 08 04:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Karenlee and well spotted!! Cathcart is 20 miles SW of Greenock as the crow flies ( ie (25 miles) and a suburb of Glasgow. I like that the spelling is Ghilchrist as on Henry's "Birthday Book" date book, ( though not how the assistant registrar spelt it on his birth certificate ( Gilchrist). Her age would be likely right. If this is the only Mary Ghilchrist (or Gilchrist) in this age group and occupation in this region of Scotland in the 1881 then there is a high probability it is her and she would be worth following forward in the censuses and getting her birth registration which should tell us her parentage. I doubt that she was reemployed in the family where she experienced the pregnancy but we will never know unless a Crookston descendent with some knowledge comes forward.
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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #186 on: Friday 20 June 08 04:32 BST (UK) »



Hi L-J

My bad...... the surname was GILCHRIST on the Census ... no H after the G ........ sorry.  Couldn't find any spelled the "right " way.

I did have a look for this Mary in the next Census but couldn't see her.  Guess one of the marriages that Gadget found could well be her.

I will go backwards now and see what comes up.

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« Reply #187 on: Friday 20 June 08 04:43 BST (UK) »
No matter, Karenlee.....I am grateful for the looks up.....and this is likely Henry at about 4 years. Lumber-Jack
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« Reply #188 on: Friday 20 June 08 05:10 BST (UK) »
And a thought just struck me....if we get Mary's parents' names from her birth registration and they match the grandparents who Gadget found with a young Henry Gilchrist in Midlothian we ( you both) will have cinched it! Ever the optimist! Lumber-Jack
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