Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress

[Lumber-Jack]

Thanks very much Sleepless2,
I had looked at http://hometown.aol.com/rosecote/myhomepage/heritage.html  late last night, and got really confused by the use of  bracketed 3's  at the entries "5 [3] John Paton 1774 - 1829 +Margaret Dickie 1784 - Unknown " and "*2nd Wife of [3] John Paton + Mary Cunningham " and I suspect this might have contributed to the muddled information you referred to. Obviously the 1696 John Paton died in infancy at does not enter the picture. " 3 John Paton 1701 - Unknown" would have been way too old to marry Margaret Dickie but presumably fine for Mary Cunningham!!! And thanks Gadget for the will lookup, especially after I doubted you....eh! So whatever fortune Janet might have been eligible to inherit, it is buried within this family and probably quite deeply. All other Paton families and fortunes are now off limits for me!! Sleepless2 you mentioned Hugh as a possible good bet...what did he do and how could I find his will?
Finally, you identified John Beaton's first wife as Florie Paton, daughter of James Paton b 1772 and Jean Paterson, who married 29 November 1806 and had Florie 24 October 1807; the name of Florie and John Paton's daughter Jean Paterson Beaton clinching it. I presume that this is an entirely different tree/ line  of Patons from that of Captain John Paton 1614-1681 and it contains no Janet candidates along the theory that John  might have married a sister/relative upon the death of Florie?
 Best wishes, Lumber-Jack

[Lumber-Jack]

Gadget, I will get John's ancesteral names ASAP.

For the benefit of all and myself is the following correct:

Up until the nineteenth century in Scotland, it was commonplace for the naming conventions listed below to be used in deciding children’s names. Many families followed the rules for year later.
Scottish, 1700 to 1800’s.
First daughter - named for maternal grandmother
Second daughter - named for paternal grandmother
Third daughter - named after her mother
Other daughters were named after other family members
First son - named after paternal grandfather
Second son - named after maternal grandfather
Third son - named after his father
This policy holds true unless one family member had more assets or a higher social standing than the other. One unique aspect of Scottish naming was if two grandmothers or two grandfathers had the same given name, two children in the same family would end up with the same name. Another practice was to name daughters after the clergyman or other important male figure.

Thanks
 Lumber-Jack

[Gadget]

Hi Lumber-Jack

That is the strict naming convention but it did vary. My ancestors (from Kirkcudbrightshire and Dumfriesshire who moved to Wales and Canada) used the names but not in that strict order. Female children were often named after male ancestors - Williamina, Johana, etc, As stated local dignitaries and clergy's names were often used.

I've done a fair bit of research in Scotland and I'd say that about two thirds followed the convention strictly.

It broke down earlier in some families than other 


Gadget

[KarenM]

Wow, you go away for a weekend and lots happens.  Well done!!

Lumber Jack the pictures are wonderful.  I was thinking about Mr. & Mrs. Beaton as I was up in their neck of the woods this past Sat. (well an hour a way, but in Canada terms, that's pretty close  )

About the passenger lists have you searched www.olivetreegenealogy.com she has alot of old ships lists on there.

Have you checked with the Lanark History Society about any books they might have on the area?  Sometimes they have old books that the small towns wrote about the people who came to the area.  I know for my area we have that was for the 100th birthday, but it was done in the 1950's and has great detail about the people who came to the area.  Just a thought. 

I'm curious about Henry, the home child, I wonder what his real name was and what his story is.  Does he have family looking for him? 

Karen

[Gadget]

Re the names of John and Janet's children. We should include the children from John's previous marriage:

William Pollock Beaton, b. 16 June 1833, Paisley (Abbey)

Jean Paterson Beaton, bpt. 4 Aug 1835, Paisley (Abbey)

If naming conventions were followed, then William would be the name of John's father.


Gadget

[Browniepants]

Hi all,
 have been following this thread with interest on the good work you all do helping,
Just out of curiosity i typed in William Pollock Beatons name in to see if there was any other tree's following this line and there is and they have John's parentage . I'm not sure how to post it or if i'm allowed to tell you were i found it.?? Am i allowed to put a link for the Tree ?? Or is that not allowed ??

                                                               Yvonne

P.S I should of said i'm not sure if this is still the line your looking for but i have read so many pages i lost the plot 

[Gadget]

Hi Yvonne 

My understanding is that you can put the link to the tree up but not copy the actual text/tree.


Gadget

[Browniepants]

Thanks Gadget,

Well here is the link i dont know if it's accurate the Tree but the info might help ??

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/pedigree.aspx?tid=3439482&pg=0

hope i've done it right         Yvonne

[Gadget]

Hi again, Yvonne 

I've just been looking at it. It has  John  b. 1813, Paisley, parents Alexander Beaton and Ann Craig.

They don't seem to fit Lumber-Jack's story about John being b. in South Africa 


Gadget