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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #99 on: Monday 02 June 08 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hallo, I placed the Curiousfox ad and have been corresponding with Dollylee.  Finally, I have retrieved my username to join in the Paton chat!

Margaret Cunningham was the second wife of a John Paton born in 1701, the grandson of the famous Captain John Paton 1614-1681.  I am fairly sure the Captain is an ancestor of grieving heiress (or not as the case may be) Janet Paton.

I think that whoever, on Ancestry.com, has given Janet Paton's father a second wife simply got their John Patons muddled and that Janet Paton's mother Margaret Dickie was still alive in 1841 living in Gauze Street, Paisley with the Beatons.

Worth looking at   http://hometown.aol.com/rosecote/myhomepage/heritage.html   showing that the Ayrshire Patons were a breed unto themselves and separate from the Paisley Patons (mine) even though some may later have moved up to live in Paisley alongside the indigenous Paisley Patons, who were, by the way, all drapers to a man.  And the Alloa Patons were another entirely separate branch again.

Gauze Street, Paisley was not a great address.  I don't know why any Paton from Alloa with a connection to factory wealth would choose to live in Gauze Street, Paisley.

Has anybody set out in a list the Christian names of Janet Paton and John Beaton's children.  These can be a great pointer in the right direction.

By the way, I have identified John Beaton's first wife as Florie Paton, daughter of James Paton b 1772 and Jean Paterson, who married 29 November 1806 and had Florie 24 October 1807.  The name of Florie and John Paton's daughter Jean Paterson Beaton clinches it

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #100 on: Monday 02 June 08 10:49 BST (UK) »


Wow.  What a great addition to this thread.  Thanks for that, much appreciated Sleepless2.

Who'd have thought that we'd get this far.

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #101 on: Monday 02 June 08 10:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for joining us Sleepless2.  Remembering your user name can be quite a problem, eh?  lol  (just a little touch of Canada there).

I am off to bed....goodnight all

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #102 on: Monday 02 June 08 11:43 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too, Sleepless  :)

Based on your views (and my gambling instinct  ;D ) , I have been looking for possible parents of Margaret Dickie. I noticed that the children of John Paton and Margaret were, in birth order:

Hugh - John's Father (John's parents - Hugh Paton and Mary Brown)
Mary 
Adam - should be Margaret's father
John
Margaret
James
Janet
Jean
Elizabeth

I've not located Margaret's birth/baptism BUT I've found a couple who were having children around the correct time in Stewarton and whose names appear in the correct order if we follow Scottish naming conventions. These were:

Adam Dickie and Mary Cunninghame.

I can't find a marriage/Banns for them but there is an entry for a Mary Cunnighame marrying a John Dickie in Stewarton on 7 May 1782.

The first daughter, Mary, in the above list could  therefore be named for   both John's  and Margaret's mother.



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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #103 on: Monday 02 June 08 12:24 BST (UK) »
That's great - pure testimony to "Scottish Naming Pattern". (I am not sure I am a gambler but I am a tremendous flyer of kites!)

And interesting that Mary Cunningham may well have been the name of Margaret Dickie's mother too.  When I mentioned Margaret Cunningham in the previous posting I did of course mean MARY Cunningham, as the mystery second wife of John Paton (but, I believe, the John Paton born 1701).  The two Mary Cunninghams may well have caused confusion at some stage somewhere in somebody's thinking.

What about the names of John Beaton and Janet Paton's children.  Any Adams or Hughs??

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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #104 on: Monday 02 June 08 12:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Sleepless

I'm not sure about the children of John and Janet - maybe our Canadian searchers can find them. i recall a George (but was he the one who died) and a John. Also, Karenlee found them on the 1881 census:



Just checked the 1881 for Canada and found the following :-

1881 Census Canada Ontario Lanark Darling
C-13233/Dist 112/F/Page 15

BEATON
John Head Marr 71 Farmer Ethnic/Origin Scottish born Cape of Good Hope Africa Religion Church of Scotland
Janet Wife Marr 69 Ethnic/Origin Scottish  born Scotland Religion Church of Scotland
Thomas Son Unmarr 27 Farmer Ethnic/Origin Scottish  born Ontario Religion Church of Scotland
Ellen Dau Unmarr 23 Etnic/Origin Scottish born Ontario Religion Church of Scotland
John Son Unmarr 19 School Teacher Ethnic/Origin Scottish born Ontario Religion Church of Scotland
Janet Dau Unmarr 16 School Teacher Ethnic/Origin Scottish born Ontario Religion Church of Scotland

Hope this is helping

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What I have got is the testament of John Paton, wright of Stewarton, , d. 1829. I've just blown £5 and downloaded it. The first paragraph mentions his wife Margaret Dickie.

The writing is very poor and I'll have to do some enhancing to read it all.

Watch this space.


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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #105 on: Monday 02 June 08 14:16 BST (UK) »
Not a huge amount of information except that it proves that Margaret survived John Paton and that John was a wright/?blacksmith

I have transcribed most of the will/inventory but have excluded a very long list of debtors:


Inventory of the personal estate and effects which belonged to the late John Paton Wright in Stewarton at the time of his death which happened upon the Thirtieth day of January eighteen hundred and twenty nine years made and given up by Mrs Margaret Dickie or Paton relict of the said defunct and executrix qua ? decerned to the said defunct by the Commissary Depute of Ayrshire upon the Ninth of July last

Primo
To principal sum contained in William Orr of Lambroughtons acceptance to the deceased dated 12th November 1826 and payable 3 months after date £56.17.6
Interest thereon till defuncts death 2 year  £ 4.5.3 1/2
                                 
£61.2.9 1/2

Secundo    £12.2.8
Tertio     £15.0.0
Quarto   £15.17.3
Quinto (Backdebts) list includes William Cunninghame Esq (owing £30) £55.2.11
(Doubtful debts) £3.3.8   
Sexto (stock in trade and implements) £60.15.10
                                 
£196.2.51/2

Sum of the Inventory amounting to one hundred and ninety six pounds two shillings and five pence halfpenny sterling

(signed) Margaret Dickie     Will Eaton  At Ayr the thirty first day of December eighteen hundred and twenty nine years
In the presence of William Eaton Esquire Commissary Depute of Ayrshire and the before named an designed Mrs Margaret Dickie or Paton widow of the late John Paton Wright Stewarton and being solemnly sworn and examined Depones that the said John Paton died upon the Thirtieth day of January last and the deponent has entered upon the profession and management of the deceased's estate as executrix dalivo (?) qua relict in virtue of a decree pronounced by the Commissary Depute upon the Ninth day of July last that the Deponent does not know of any settlement or writing relative to the disposal of the deceased's personal estate or affects any or part of them. That the foregoing inventory written on the two proceeding pages each of which is signed by the Deponent and the Commissary Depute as relative ? is a full and true Inventory of the personal and movable estate and effects of the said deceased John Paton wheresoever situated already reasoned or known to be existing belonging or due to him beneficially at the time of his death and that the said estate situated in Scotland is of the value of One hundred and fifty pounds sterling and under the value of Two hundred pounds sterling all of which is truth as the deponent shall answer to God (signed) Margaret Dickie Will Eaton
Written by John Eaton



If we use the Retail Price Index calculator this would be worth £14,324.89p or £9,706.02 using the National Archives calculator.

Not bad but not a fortune - about the price of a small car  :-\


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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #106 on: Monday 02 June 08 14:19 BST (UK) »
Great stuff....my theory has been debunked....I won't gamble with Gadget. I will do a review later but here is the list of Janet and John Beaton's children:

2nd marriage only
George W. Beaton born 1 June 1840 Abbey Paisley Scotland died 6 October 1914 Kearney Ontario (7 children)
John Beaton born 5 August 1843 Abbey Paisley Scotland died about September 1843 on ship crossing
Stephen Beaton born 8 August 1846 Clayton Ontario died 10 January 1929 Bellingham Washington(5 children)
Ellen Beaton born 9 July 1848 Clayton Ontario died 22 November 1900 Lanark County Ontario(not married)
Margaret Beaton (McDougall) born 9 May 1850 Clayton Ontario died 9 January 1940 Lanark County (7 children)
Elizabeth Mary Beaton (Cumming)(Lindsay) born 20 March 1852 Lanark County died 16 November 1941 Lanark (no children)
Thomas Beaton born 31 March 1854 Lanark died 26 February 1882 Lanark County (1 child died infancy)
Janet Beaton born 10 Jun 1856 Lanark died infancy
Jane Beaton born 30 January 1859 Lanark died infancy
John Beaton born 8 December 1861 Lanark died 1955 (6 children)
Janet B. Beaton (Hendrick)  born 18 December 1864 Lanark died 6 May 1942 Richville NY (1 child)
Henry Gilchrist Beaton (adopted home child) born 1879 Glasgow died 7 February 1858 Kitscoty Alberta (2 children)


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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #107 on: Monday 02 June 08 15:18 BST (UK) »
Hmmmmmmm no Adam and no Hugh. However, it was the next generation down and naming conventions might well have been dropped at that stage.

I've forgotten JOhn Beaton's parents' names, so will go have another read of the thread!

It's such a pity that official registration only started in Scotland in 1855. It looks as if   Margaret Paton (nee Dickie) died before then. I can't get a real identification on the 1851 or in the deaths  :-\


There is a possible Margaret Paton on the 1841 in Stewarton:

Cocklebie Street, Stewarton

Margt Paton, 60-64, sewer, b. Ayrshire

The only Margaret Dickie in the 1841, Stewarton is 50-54 and appears to be married to a John Dickie, farmer (no relationships given on the 1841  :( )



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