Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress

[Deb D]

Just another thought ... from alarming personal experience LOL - Jean/Janet/Jessie all seem to be interchangeable.  Went looking for a great aunt Jean, only to find that she was actually christened Janet, but was called "Jessie" by the family 

[Gadget]

Glad you see this as well Deb - I said that yesterday when I first came onto the thread 

 Most of the Scottish Board lookers-up would automatically be looking for these variations.

Gadget

[Deb D]

Ooooops missed that one! 

[Gadget]

Not too worry - there is so much to read that it's easy to miss some points 

I did do a fairly thorough search on SP for all J Pa*ton* 1819 to 1821 as I'd seen that Karenlee had looked at the earlier period. I'll have a look if there are any with a mother Ellen/Helen 

[Gadget]

2 with mother's name Helen - a Jean and a Jesse (Female) in 1819 - Angus and Stirlingshire.

 

[Lumber-Jack]

OK, I am having a tough time trying to figure out Janet's Scottish roots!

Gadget's money is on the An....try/Curious Fox family  but I still have difficulties with this setting aside my previous concerns over differences in #'s of siblings, location and date of birth:

In that listing Margaret Dickie is born abt 1784 , marries John Paton ( b1774)  in 1805 and amongst others produces:
 Janet (born 14 September 1819  christened 19 September 1819)
 Jean (born abt September 1821 christened 2 September 1821)
 Margaret (born 22 September 1815 christened 22 September 1815)

These are sourced from church parish records and therefore likely accurate for the christening dates

With both a Janet and a Jean in the family I would think they would keep the names discrete to the individuals so that the common interchanging of Jean, Janet, and Jessie  for the same individual probably did not occur in this family.

The daughter Margaret is too young to be the Margaret Paton age 50 born abt 1791 who was living with the Beaton's in the 1841 Census of Scotland.

According to the An....try /Curious Fox family file:

John Paton, Margaret Dickie's husband died in 1829 .
Their last child together was Elizabeth (born 17 July 1824 with no christening date given)
John Paton married a second wife, Mary Cunningham, presumably between 1824 and 1829
My guess is that Margaret Dickie died in that period, maybe as a result of complications from Elizabeth's birth.
Granted there could have been a "divorce" but it would be unusual.

So if Margaret Dickie died between 1824 and 1829 she could not be the Margaret Paton age 50 born abt 1791 who was living with the Beaton's in the 1841 Census of Scotland, even though their birth dates might be in the same "ball-park" (1791/1784 though church records of this time are more accurate than the early census). She could not be Janet or Jean's mother.

I would welcome any comments on this theory. It does hinge  on the veracity of John's remarriage to Mary and the supposition that Margaret died.

So I am still stuck with the highlighted conclusions of my recent reviw posting. Janet's childhood family has not been found; Margaret Paton holds a key; and the John Paton company of Paisley may be significant from the inheritance perspective.

Out of interest does anyone know where Cowden Park was, given that we do have a will for a Margaret Paton from that location?

I remain very grateful to all of you who are helping with this and are probably sharing in my frustration at this point.....though we have really come a very long way together since my first posting!!!

Best wishes, Lumber-Jack

[liverpool annie]

Cowden Park House is a house in Alloa, Clackmannanshire, Scotland. On 17 June 1977 it was listed as a Category C(s) building
It was built in the 1850s for Alexander Forrester-Paton, a member of the family which owned the Paton & Baldwins Wool company. The Paton family which owned large areas of land in Clackmannanshire.
Cowden Park House was first used as a house, and was later turned into a school for disabled people. Next it was used for offices as a council building. After this it was split into three houses and was sometimes used as offices for small businesses.
It is currently used as three houses.
The architect was John Melvin, Sr., (1805-7 March 1884 )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patons_and_Baldwins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gean_House

[Lumber-Jack]

Thanks Annie.....looks like I am barking up the wrong tree ( good metaphor for a genealogist and an old dog like myself!) with this Margaret as we have set aside the Paton wool magnates. Is the John Paton and Son of Paisley that I keep refering too the same family as the wool magnate family that we have eliminated thanks to Marg's advice? If so , I should stop pursuing them to. Thanks Lumber-Jack

[dollylee]

I just received this in an email from Janet:

"John Paton's second wife Mary Cunningham
(which Lumberjack thinks proves his assertion that Margaret Dickie died
before the 1841 census) is a red herring.  Whoever submitted the
information about John Paton having a second wife muddled their John
Patons.  There is a most useful family tree at   
http://hometown.aol.com/rosecote/myhomepage/heritage.html   which sets
out at very great length the descendants of the famous Captain John
Paton of Ayrshire 1614-1684 (Janet Paton's ancestor I would lay money). 
Mary Cunningham was the second wife of his grandson John Paton 1701-
unknown, not the later John Paton.

If there was an  inheritance it may have been waiting for her from Janet
Paton's brother Hugh, who seems to have done rather well for himself.

Janet "

I haven't checked out the website myself as it is 3:34 a.m. here and I am half asleep.

I have encouraged Janet to join rootschat and join in the conversation as she seems to be very knowledgeable and certanly has done a lot of research for this topic.

Hopefully she will and see her very soon !!

dollylee