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Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« Reply #117 on: Monday 02 June 08 17:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

                 oh no i forgot abt that part of the story :( Told you i'd lost the plot  ;D

Oh well it was worth a try  ;)

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« Reply #118 on: Monday 02 June 08 17:30 BST (UK) »
I know how you feel!

It's very difficult to keep it all together - a bit like juggling. I've got a good memory but I'm having to look back and forth all the time to follow the strands.

L-J - would you like me to check on Hugh Paton's will?

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« Reply #119 on: Monday 02 June 08 19:13 BST (UK) »
My brain is hurting. 

From where did the information come that Janet Paton's husband John Beaton had an earlier marriage to Flora Paton and a son called William Pollock?  It is really actually remarkable to find that if John Beaton's father WAS Alexander he did not call his eldest son or ANY of his several sons Alexander.  Assuming it is a fact that Janet Paton did have a stepson called William Pollock Beaton, is it possible - in fact I can answer that straightaway and say yes it is - that the person submitting information about William Pollock Beaton to Ancestry has simply got it wrong, and given the wrong John Beaton as Dad to William Pollock.

The Ancestry trees are always interesting, as long as one remembers that they sometimes do get it terribly wrong.

In any case William Pollock's dad is likely to have been born BEFORE 1813 to tie in with Flora's age and the fact that he died 10 years before Janet Paton.  It doesn't follow for sure - of course not - but it is quite likely.

I will look into possible family connections between Flora's father, James Paton, and Janet's father, John Paton, remembering all the while that there is now a possibility Janet's father was called George!.


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« Reply #120 on: Monday 02 June 08 19:54 BST (UK) »
Interesting point re William Pollock being place in the wrong family.....although the name Pollock does show up in this family later on in Canada.

He isn't listed with Janet, John, George and Margaret on the 1841....apparently he is with another Paton family but I am not sure who as I didn't check it out myself.

Now the experts are here I feel silly even posting......cause my brain hurts as well  ;D

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« Reply #121 on: Monday 02 June 08 20:22 BST (UK) »
Wow, you go away for a weekend and lots happens.  Well done!!

 I'm curious about Henry, the home child, I wonder what his real name was and what his story is.  Does he have family looking for him?  :'(

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Left Glasgow:  March 22, 1882
Arrive: Halifax:  April 7, 1882
Passenger:  Henry Gilchrist, age 4, sex m
No final destination given.  He is with 73 other Home Children.

Off to look for the actual image but this could be him.

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« Reply #122 on: Monday 02 June 08 20:59 BST (UK) »
My brain is hurting. 

From where did the information come that Janet Paton's husband John Beaton had an earlier marriage to Flora Paton and a son called William Pollock?  It is really actually remarkable to find that if John Beaton's father WAS Alexander he did not call his eldest son or ANY of his several sons Alexander.  Assuming it is a fact that Janet Paton did have a stepson called William Pollock Beaton, is it possible - in fact I can answer that straightaway and say yes it is - that the person submitting information about William Pollock Beaton to Ancestry has simply got it wrong, and given the wrong John Beaton as Dad to William Pollock.

The Ancestry trees are always interesting, as long as one remembers that they sometimes do get it terribly wrong.

In any case William Pollock's dad is likely to have been born BEFORE 1813 to tie in with Flora's age and the fact that he died 10 years before Janet Paton.  It doesn't follow for sure - of course not - but it is quite likely.

I will look into possible family connections between Flora's father, James Paton, and Janet's father, John Paton, remembering all the while that there is now a possibility Janet's father was called George!.



William Pollock Beaton and sister, Jean Paterson Beaton,  are pukka births to John Beaton and Flora Paton - IGI exrtracted. It's the Ancestry tree that is suspect and most likely wrong.

The thread is a bit unwieldy but it is worth having a quiet read - it's all there.


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« Reply #123 on: Monday 02 June 08 21:03 BST (UK) »
PS

Dolly  - your 1841 census find was pivotal - as were your various links -  I've had a look at the original image - Paisley - Abbey parish, George Street  :)

I'll have a look for the William Pollock Beaton shortly  :)

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« Reply #124 on: Monday 02 June 08 21:19 BST (UK) »
The only William Beaton that looks a poss on the 1841 is this one:

Tylesland, Paisley Low
559 ED 20a

William Beaton, 33
Marrion, 38
Mary, 13
William, 8
Joseph,5
Ann, 3
Alexander, 6 months

all b. Renfrewshire

It doesn't feel convincing to me  :-\

Cananyone else find him/


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« Reply #125 on: Monday 02 June 08 21:38 BST (UK) »
I agree the 1841 census sighting of the family is all important.

But where was William Pollock Beaton in 1841?  I have tried to find him without success.

As John Beaton named his first daughter after her maternal grandmother, Jean Paterson, it is very likely that he WAS an old-fashioned Scottish-naming-pattern sort of chap and that his son William was named after his father.  We should therefore be looking for a William Beaton born probably not much later than 1780.

It is also important to get a COMPLETE list of John's children by Janet Paton, since the name of Janet's father ought to come fairly close to the top, and it would be helpful to have a list of John's brothers too so as to sort Beaton names from Paton ones.