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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 June 08 19:57 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Have just viewed the original document on SP for Henry's birth and it shows William and Elizabeth Cowan , maiden name Trail, as the parents. So this would indicate that they were married.

As I said in my earlier post, I assumed they married in the area because that was where Elizabeth came from, but according to the 1861 census, William was Irish,  so I suppose there may be a possibility that they married in Ireland and moved back to Scoonie.
 

Many thanks for all the help and advice
Bones ;)
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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 June 08 21:59 BST (UK) »
Bones,
Have a look at this site on Fife.

www.thefifepost.com       
Dundee. Pullar, Gray, Calman,Halket.
Fife, Auchterlonie, Binnie, Briggs,Dempster,Herd,Mann,Kidd, Grubb, Rollo,Henderson,McLaren, Fairfull,Weir. Just to name a few.

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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 03:49 BST (UK) »


Hello again, Bones,

Although I will be continuing with details of the TRAIL family going back into the 1700's, can you tell me where in Suffolk William and Elizabeth settled?

Many thanks.


Tom.

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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 07:35 BST (UK) »


Hello again, Bones,

You will have noticed that I have continued with my research which coincides with your comments about DAVID TRAIL.

As I see it, David TRAIL married Ann MELDRUM on the 27th October, 1827 at Scoonie and they named their eldest daughter, Agnes Swan TRAIL who was born in August 1828 at Scoonie. One of her sisters was indeed Elizabeth TRAIL, born 12th January, 1836 and yes, she went on to marry William COWAN in 1858 at Scoonie.

You are quite correct about David's father, being James TRAIL. He married a lady by the name of Elizabeth DOWIE on the 3rd of December, 1790 at Kettle. In my latest postings, I explain that the farm where I lived at the end of World War II - Easter Lathrisk Farm explains the ancient name of the village of KETTLE. Lathrisk was the original name for the village.

Do you have any further information about David TRAIL's wife, Ann MELDRUM?

You may find it interesting that William COWAN's sister-in-law was Agnes Swan TRAIL and that she was born in Scoonie. However, you may also be interested to learn that there was also a Janet Swan MELDRUM, who was born on 7th March, 1813 also AT SCOONIE. Janet's parents were David MELDRUM and Agnes WILSON. As you can see from this, the COWANS, TRAILS, MELDRUM's and WILSON's were all living in a pretty small area of Fife and so it may be worthwhile to follow those leads.

Kind Regards,


Tom.


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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 08:54 BST (UK) »


Hello again, Bones,

You will have noticed that I have continued with my research which coincides with your comments about DAVID TRAIL.[/color One of her sisters was indeed Elizabeth TRAIL, born 12th January, 1836 and yes, she went on to marry William COWAN in 1858 at Scoonie.




Tom.



Tom I cant see that marriage on SP, what source did you use to find it?

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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 09:03 BST (UK) »
I'm curious too, hunted high and low for it.... ::)

Monica  :)
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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 13:02 BST (UK) »


Hello Monica & Sancti,

My, what a fuss about this point whilst ignoring the huge amount of work that I've done on the family! Is it really all that important to Bones? The point is, Henry COWAN's birth was certainly not illegitimate. His parents were certainly married at the time of his birth in Scoonie.

I note how you have such a strong reliance on S.P., and although I have the greatest respect for the site, it certainly isn't infallible. There are other sources which, in contrast to the IGI, contains entries extracted from original sources - but I'm sure that you would both be aware of that.

I am currently examining such a source very, very closely, and I'm quite surprised at the wealth of detail. I certainly don't wish to enter into a discussion about how I work, especially since I want to do much more work on it. If Bones is happy with what I'm doing, why the fuss and splutter?

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Tom.

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 13:22 BST (UK) »
No fuss and splutter Tom, but as the marriage date falls after the date that Statutory Records were introduced I would expect it to be recorded on SP. As I can't find it there I was wondering if the names may be transcribed wrongly and I was interested in your source.

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Re: Scoonie/Leven Marriage Look Up Please
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 15:59 BST (UK) »
Tom

All Sancti and I are trying to do is find official record of the marriage post 1855 in Scotland which was the query originally posted by Bones. Whilst Bones has been able to identify Elizabeth Trail's family from her second marriage in England, I would imagine she may be interested in details of William Cowan's parents and further verification of Elizabeth's parents, which would hopefully come from looking at a Scottish post 1855 cert.

Monica  :)
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