Hi everyone, Thanks for your help. I'm going to order Charles' birth certificate and see if that helps. I noticed the disappearance and reappearance of Clarissa and Thomas as well. Elizabeth Berry was married before, I think to a Micklethwaite. Sarah is a Mickle thwaite in both the 1841 and 1851 census. The family are all recorded as Feith in 1871. I wonder if she used Berry or Micklethwaite when she married ( or possibly she didn't marry at all). There is also a Daniel Heap? that lives with the family (or next door)sometimes recorded as a lodger other times as the son of Elizabeth Berry? Heap? I wonder where he fits in? I'm baffled! Jane