Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??

[Sarahsausage]

hello;you mentioned smiths of Nottingham, well i have family, smiths of Harby in nottingham, and we have an extensive family tree; we were the smiths tailors in nottingham and london, and smiths jewellers are related.  I do not have the family tree with me, my mum has copies of it. And we are all romany/spanish gypsy heritage. the Smiths of Nottingham are related to the Boothes of Nottingham.  It is my Grandad who is most well known amongst the Gypsies of Nottingham, Eric Smith from Harby...There is a Martha Smith in our family tree, but i will have to check with my Mums family tree, and double check who your Martha Smith is...the thing is, the Gypsies did get their children christened, but sometimes it seems like you come to a dead end, then only to realise that they church hopped,lol. xx

[gypsysue]

Found on familysearch.org 1881 Census
 
7, River Side, Attercliffe Cum Darnall, York
Easy (Esau?) Smith Head Unmarried 60yrs Salby, Leics Gypsy Hawker
Susannah Smith Other 56yrs Selson, Derby Gypsy Hawker
Sara A. Smith Daughter Unmarried 17yrs Bradford, York Gypsy Hawker
Patience Smith Widow 36yrs Wadsley, York Gypsy Hawker
James Smith Grandson 14 yrs Kirkstall, York Gypsy Hawker
Nipton Smith Grandson 8yrs Brotherton, York Gypsy
Selina Smith Granddaughter 6yrs Sherburn, York Gypsy
 
Back of 7, River Side
Isaac Smith Head Unmarried 26yrs Retford, Nottingham Gypsy Hawker
Mary A. (last name listed as Charlotte but both listed as W for Widow or Wife and U for Unmarried so maybe they were living as man and wife) 21yrs Kirton in Lindsey, Lincoln Gypsy Hawker
Annie Smith Daughter 8mths Carbrook, York Gypsy
Taperty Smith Mother Widow 60yrs No listing for Birthplace Gypsy Hawker
Rabbi Smith Brother Unmarried 18yrs Doncaster, York Gypsy Hawker

More to follow........

[gypsysue]

More from familysearch.org 1881 Census....

No2 Waggon (Gypsy) River Street
William Smith Head Married 20yrs Bradford, York Gypsy Hawker
Sophia Smith Wife Married 19yrs Leics Gypsy Hawker
Priscilla Smith Daughter 11mths Carbrook, York Gypsy
 
9, River Stree
Edward Smith Head Married 55yrs no birthplace listed Hawker
Rachel Smith Wife Married 55yrs no birthplace listed Hawker
Edward Smith Son Unmarried 18yrs Finley, York Hawker
 
11, River Street
N. Smith Head Unmarried Female 24yrs Houghton Pannell, York - Found on Family Search Bap. of Flora (02/01/1881 at Carbrook, Yorks) mother named as Nonisse - no father named
Harriet Smith Daughter 6yrs Bolsover, Derby
Darner Smith Daughter 5yrs Carbrook, York
Joe Smith Son 2yrs Carbrook, York
Flora Smith 3mths Carbrook, York

more to come.....

[gypsysue]

From familysearch.org 1881 Census.....

Back of 9, River Street
William Carter Head Married 35yrs Burton-on-Trent Travelling Grinder (Hawker)
Barnett Carter Wife 35yrs Mettam, Lincoln
Mary A. Carter 16yrs Ilkeston, Nottingham
William A. Carter 10yrs Burton-on-Trent
Christ R. Carter Male 7yrs Nottingham
Joshua Carter 5yrs DArby
Silvey Carter Female 2wks Carsbrook, York
 
No 3 Waggon River Street
Samuel Elliot Head Married 65yrs Willoughby, Notts Hawker (Gipsies)
Eliz. Elliot Wife 65yrs Leeds Hawker (Gipsies)
Emily Elliot Daughter 16yrs Clown, Derby (Gipsies)
Lillia Elliot Daughter 12yrs Rampton, Wocester

Hope this information is of use to someone....
 

[Beansmith]

Hi just read your message about  the Smiths from Harby. I am William Smith from Harby. The eldest son of Eric Smith who was born in 1905. They were Tailors in Nottingham & London. I also have two sisters and one brother. I am also related to the Booth family.

[romanochal]

hi, I'm randolph smith son of eric smith harby village notts and my mother beryl carlin bulwell notts and brother of bill above.

[jonnyrey]

Hi everyone,
was just wondering if anyone has any info on a smith family living in the falsgrave area of scarborough. William smith born in durham in 1793 was living in falsgrave and was a potman. married to elizabeth rowbottom he had two daughters prudence who was married to hannibal swales and sarah who married william wharton in falsgrave. Would love to know more about any of these family members but dont know much about william smith background.
regards
Johnny

[rob g]

hi, jay cee, just saw the thread. sorry i cannot help with your searching. i have smith relations myself. but they are such a large romany family that they cover the whole of the uk. and using the same first names over and over is not a help. thats one of the reasons we have nick names. as you may know.   one old traveller i knew, sadly dead now. was elija varey,a nice man. his nick name was running dog! bit like the indians? is it not. anyway there is and was a lot of marrying into and out of the gypsy familys with gorgios, my uncle wed a show woman surname emmerson, a very old show family, both dead now. with the canal folk it would be the same.  if they had contact with romany folki, in fact any group who stayed on the camps of travellers, or around them, did/do  intermarry with non romany people. it is one of the reasons that surnames change, and records can be hard to find. any way cushty bok. good hunting.   rob  .g

[Lino]

Hi just read your message about  the Smiths from Harby. I am William Smith from Harby. The eldest son of Eric Smith who was born in 1905. They were Tailors in Nottingham & London. I also have two sisters and one brother. I am also related to the Booth family.

hello. i think i may be related to you if your eric smith was the son of rose & enoch smith of melton mowbray leics. please get back to me if this is the case. thanks. lynne.