TAGGART/HANNA/

[Taggart 009]

Hi Steve, just been reading some of the entries here.  thanks so much for keeping your eyes open for me and my Taggart's.  Who did you find? Val.

[Taggart 009]

Hello Mr. Chris, and where did you get that information per chance re Oliver Cromwell
By the way, thanks so much for the kind words re my beautiful dog friend who recently past away.  Still feelding awful about it and the tears still drop often.

[Christopher]

Hiya Val.

A very good friend told me about Oliver Cromwell and the Taggarts It throws a different light on matters. Some of the Taggarts in Arnagh may be related to your family. There were quite a number in the county at the time of Griffiths Valuations of Ireland. Some of the names in your family also appear in Armagh at that time.  The Valuation took place in the county in 1864. That was one of the last Valuations which took place during the time span 1848-64.

Val, very many thanks for sharing that beautiful picture of Carrick who was such an important member of your family. It is great to see such a lovely picture on the thread where your family are being traced. Seeing Carrick helps us realise that dogs too have an important role and play a vital part in our lives.  It makes a pleasant change from the usual pictures of headstones and graveyards on some of the other threads although they too have their place in helping to keep alive memories of peoples ancestors. 

Chris

[stevenson]

hi Val

Found this the name" Norman" jumped out at me along with the Taggart

Any help to you Colette

David Norman Graham dies at Carrick 14/01/1881 age 45
Sargent in Antrim Artillery Militia
also buried is Benjamin Mills Taggart grandson died 30/05/1905 age 5

Steve

Val...glad to see you back..................what a beautiful dog   

Steve

[Binti]

My apologies if this appears twice. I pushed the "post" button and nothing happened.
Hi everyone and Hi Val
We have been in touch before. I have been reading the posts about Val's Taggarts and can't help but wonder if my brick wall is connected.
My husband Andrew Taggart, son of Wilfred Taggart (born New Zealand), 2nd (1st son was Andrew - died WW2) son of Andrew Taggart, born Cumberland, England 1870, son of Andrew Taggart born "Belfast Ireland" about 1840 ---BRICKWALL----
The first evidence of this family is in Cumberland in 1865 when Andrew Taggart (b. 1840) and Margaret Burns give birth to their first son William.  In 1870 Twins Andrew and James are born. They do not appear in 1861 census and in 1871 Margaret and the 3 boys are alone. In 1876 the complete family (Andrew & Margaret with William, Andrew and James are in New Zealand - no shipping record found so far. Robert is born 1876, David 1879 and Maggie in 1884.
There is an Andrew Taggart(b abt 1804), wife Jane and daughter Elizabeth in Cumberland in 1871. In 1881 there is an Andrew Taggart in a Workhouse in Whitehaven and he died 1883. I have his death certificate, but it does not help at all except to say born in Ireland. There is no proof that ties Andrew, Jane and Elizabeth with Andrew and Margaret.
IN 1878 Andrew (Margaret's husband)was in an area where there was a huge clearing of land for farming and there is strong evidence that he was a ploughman. By 1885 the family moved North and Andrew (born 1870) became a ploughman as he grew up.
Suggestion here is that the family were farm workers in Cumberland and/or Ireland.
Gosh its hard writing about so many Andrews! I look forward to any comments.
regards
Patricia Taggart, New Zealand

[Taggart 009]

Hello Patricia, it’s really lovely to hear from you again.  Been a very long time.
Don't these Andrew's just drive you mad?  Even when we chatted ages ago, we had the feeling there is a connection with both our ancestors.  BUT it’s the finding of  that one darn link that I am having the trouble with.  I think we probably need a pair of fresh eyes that know what they are looking for. I have the same problem with my Andrews. For instance these are my Taggart’s . 

What I am trying to find out is if the Taggart’s in the attachment and the Andrew’s mentioned here, are connected .

1.  ANDREW1 TAGGART was born in Donegore, Antrim, and died March 11, 1886 in TamneyBreak. [sic. Tawnybrack] Co. Antrim. He married MARY SHANNON – record not yet found.
   
Children of ANDREW TAGGART and MARY SHANNON , baptized 1st Donegore Pres Ch., are:
2.   i.   WILLIAM TAGGART, b. September 20, 1821, Ballynoe. Co. Antrim
    ii.   ROBERT TAGGART,   b. November 12, 1824, Hungry Hall, Co. Antrim.;
            m. JANE MCBRIDE, March 03, 1847; b. Hungry Hall..
                 iii.    ANDREW TAGGART,  b. August 10, 1827,   Drumagargan [sic. Drumagorgan];
   iv.     JOSEPH2 TAGGART,    b. January 08, 1833,   Donegore. Co. Antrim Northern Ireland..
   v.   MARY TAGGART,      b. December 26, 1835, Donegore. Co. Antrim.

[Christopher]

Hiya Val,

We need a birth date plus parents and maybe siblings for Andrew who died in 1886. I wonder if your Andrew who married Mary Shannon and Patricia's Andrew born in 1804 were cousins. They were born about the same time. It is more than probable their Grandfather was an Andrew.   
 
It is just as well there are dates of death for those Andrews. If someone else comes along with an Andrew Taggart born around the beginning of the 1800s with no birth or death certificate I will begin to wonder about him. He will be safe enough if he crossed the Atlantic to America, emigrated to Australia or something similar but if he remained in Ireland or lived somewhere in Britain I would begin to feel he had two families all with identical names including his wife. It would certainly make it easy for him when trying to remember with which family he was living with at any given moment.

All the Best, Chris 

[Taggart 009]

Hi Chris, your right about needing more details on Andrew who died in 1886  but how to get it? 
The challenge is out to everyone who reads this and would like to help.  Chris tells me that Rootschat.com is THE  BEST  so lets see just how  "THE  BEST"  it really is  . L.O.L.

[Christopher]

Hi Chris, your right about needing more details on Andrew who died in 1886  but how to get it? 
The challenge is out to everyone who reads this and would like to help.  Chris tells me that Rootschat.com is THE  BEST  so lets see just how  "THE  BEST"  it really is  . L.O.L.

Hiya Val,

Don't think you are getting out of it that easy

You are a member of Roots Chat too.

How good are you at searching

As a matter of interest where is the Taggart
banishment from Co. Antrim by Oliver Cromwell
recorded? I feel such an event should have had
a reference so that others could look at the original.
Was the document found in the Linenhall Library,
National Archives or PRONI and why has that point
of reference not been noted?   

All the Best, Chris