Author Topic: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay  (Read 14633 times)

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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #18 on: Friday 02 January 09 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks

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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #19 on: Friday 02 January 09 16:05 GMT (UK) »
hi rory, sorry to hear about kevin, i met sean a few years ago while fishing in ballybay he was on holidays. regarding family crests there are a lot of con men on the web who will sell you anything. i have seen several different mc bride coat of arms so may i suggest you refer to the royal college of arms site.Heraldry, with its Coat of Arms and Crests although viewed by many as an ancient art form, is an exciting picture language in colour with its heraldic signs and symbols often incorporate a glorious mêlée of golden crowns and coronets, lions, eagles, fabulous beasts and mythological creatures, birds, fishes, flowers and busts of men and women. Heraldry is often seen as much of a science as an art and often refers to the design of the Achievements for a particular surname which is also often linked to a specific place or occupation. It emerged at a time during the mid-12 century when fighting men became unrecognizable inside their suits of armour to both friend and foe alike. It soon emerged that by decorating the shield with a design that was unique to that particular person it could also be seen from a distance. Heraldry began to grow into a science of heraldry with its own unique language and system of laws to regulate and record it accurately.

With common names like Smith, there are many different designs of Arms for the same surname with each of these designs often represent a completely different locality and lineage. Coats of Arms often also vary according to the generations, as in most countries the original design of Coat of Arms were handed down from father to the oldest son. The succeeding son's Arms were can also be slightly modified to reflect his own individual achievement. This has resulted in several different design of Arms for descendants of the same family gradually being developed over a period of many generations.

It is therefore important when following the rules of Heraldry, when anyone is attempting to have a coat of arms produced that is associated with their own particular surname and they can therefore prove direct descent in the male line from the original bearer of the arms. This will insure that the design of the coat of arms is in fact directly linked to their own particular family and not simply someone who is unrelated, but happens to share the same surname as their own;  i cannot remember your dad but if he remembers me give him my regards. peter

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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #20 on: Monday 05 January 09 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info. My dad for some reason no one can explain also went by the name Moses. All of his family calls him Moses

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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #21 on: Monday 05 January 09 21:00 GMT (UK) »
i vaguely remember that but it was "mose" not moses. we all had nick names. peter


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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #22 on: Monday 05 January 09 21:05 GMT (UK) »
I will see if he remembers you the next time i talk to him

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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #23 on: Monday 14 March 11 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for being almost entirely off topic but I saw that millymcb posted that she has a copy of "The Ford at the Birches" I am in the US and the closest copy I can find is over 700 miles away. I've been trying to track down a Bannon family. Stewart Bannon was reportedly born in Ballybay 12 May 1846. Any chance anyone can look to see if there is any info about him in the book? The family came to the US several years later and I've love to be able to further my research into Ireland. They are buried in an Episcopal church cemetery in Minnesota

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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #24 on: Monday 14 March 11 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jill - Welcome to Rootschat ;D

I have had a look at the index in the book and there is no specific mention of Stewart Bannon.  No mention of any Bannons in fact.

But - that does not mean he is not mentioned. The book is over 550 pages and the index is very limited.  All through the book there are lists of names, and references to different schools and churches etc.   So the only way to find anyone in particular is to read the whole book!

I did flick through and came across a James Bannon - listed as a boot and shoemaker in Slaters 1846 Directory.  That is all it says - but if he is Stewart's relative you could perhaps look at Slaters if you can find it and see what address it gives etc.

I will have another flick trhough later and see if the name pops out of the page at me anywhere but it is a bit of a random exercise ::)

If you have a particular church or village or graveyard you want me to look at it may be an easier and more fruitful process..

Milly ;D
McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay
« Reply #25 on: Monday 14 March 11 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Well...I have had a bit of a look through most of the main pages that list names and can't see Stewart Bannon.  he may be hidden away somewhere but they don't appear to be a major family in the area.

In addition to James the shoe and bootmaker, I also found Philip and William Bannon listed as Town Tennants for a town map dated 1837-1839.   

By coincidence my Mcbride Ballybay ancestor was also a shoe-maker and had a son there about 1831. I am not sure how long he was there as I have been unable to find any other reference to him. they may even have known each other.

The book has cemetery lists in it which I have looked at and can't see any Bannons - but let me know if you have anything specific to look for

Milly ;D
McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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