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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 May 08 15:44 BST (UK) »
Gee - Thanks again - yeah I checked back on my records and I am unsure as to how I missed William in the 1851 census - I only have some of my stuff with me at the moment as I am in the process of moving- so perhaps that is a half way decent excuse. ;)

Richard Lucas, ( son of William and Rhoda) married Elizabeth Pickard 7 Feb 1859 in Bedworth. I believe that she was born around 1840 = but have not found anything else about her. Is there any chance you have access to information on her.

Please tell me if I am being too much of a pest. You have already found a heap of info that I would otherwise not have found. It is very much appreciated.

ps -while I have been typing - I noticed that you have have  posted a heap more stuff. Thanks again - and yes, any info that you find is very welcome - so I would love the IGI christenings.It is amazing that you can get access to stuff so quickly. How are you managing to do it?

Debbie
HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe  to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus

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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 May 08 15:56 BST (UK) »
It's quick because it's available anytime  :D

For census you need a subscription to pay sites but the IGI for instance is free to search at www.familysearch.org

Here are all the children christened to Thomas Wilkinson and Rhoda in the batch C042011 covering Exhall Near Coventry christenings 1803-1875

MARY WILKINSON Christening: 21 MAY 1804
ELIZABETH WILKINSON Christening: 15 JUN 1805
ANN JARVISS WILKINSON Christening: 04 OCT 1807
THOMAS WILKINSON Christening: 24 SEP 1809
RHODA WILKINSON Christening: 09 MAR 1812
SARAH WILKINSON Christening: 17 APR 1814
HANNAH WILKINSON Christening: 13 OCT 1816
WM. WILKINSON Christening: 27 MAR 1819
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:05 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth is trickier - the 1851 census shows 2 candidates  :-\

- one age 11 daughter of James and Judah (?), living in Bedworth
- one age 12 daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth, living in Foleshill

Unless a later census shows Richard with inlaws, or I find one of them still unmarried in 1861, you might need the marriage certificate for Richard and Elizabeth to find out which one is yours. 

I'll have a look  :)
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:18 BST (UK) »
I have used the IGI to find details of individuals - but never to find things like christenings of a whole host of siblings. How do you do this with the search facility - when I looked at it I can place surname, event and date range and country and even parent's names if I go to the advanced search- but I can't be specific as to counties etc . I am surprised that you don't get hundreds of names - especially with common surnames like Wilkinson.

Debbie
HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe  to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus


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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:23 BST (UK) »
Not looking too bad!

In 1851, there was:
HO107/2066 361 29
Foleshill, Warwickshire
Samuel Pickard, 30
Elizabeth, 33
Eliza, 12, b. Bedworth
.....
Harriet, dau, 2, b. Foleshill  

and in 1861 I see:
RG9/2199 58 28
Bedworth, Warwickshire
Thomas Johnson, 27
Eliza, wife, 23, b. Bedworth
....
Harriet Pickard, sister in law, 13, b. Foleshill  

(marriage Sep 1859 Foleshill Thomas johnson - Eliza Pickard)

therefore by elimination yours should be the other one  :)
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:25 BST (UK) »
Re searching the IGI:

Once you have found Rhoda's christening, click on the batch number. You can then search withing this specific batch. Fill in father's name: Thomas Wilkinson and mother: Rhoda and hit search  :)
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:30 BST (UK) »
So back to Elizabeth, this should be yours (in fact there was a 3rd candidate, born and christened in Sep 1841 but I've ruled her out as she's still at home with parents John and Hannah in 1861):

1851
HO107/2066 143 22
Bedworth, Warwickshire
New Town

James Pickard, head, 39, Ribbon Weaver Silk
Judah(?), wife, 40, ditto
Joseph, son, 13, ditto
Elizabeth, dau, 11, ditto
James, son, 5
Allis, dau, 3
John, son, 1

All born Bedworth.

I'm wondering if it's someone's 2nd marriage, with the 6-year gap between the kids... (Edit: doesn't look like it  :P)

Extracted IGI christening
ELIZABETH PICKARD
Birth 07 DEC 1839   
Christening 18 OCT 1842 Bedworth, Warwickshire 

Father JAMES PICKARD Mother JUDITH

IGI extracted marriage:
JAMES PICKARD - JUDITH CATTLE
Marriage About 20 AUG 1832 Bedworth, Warwickwhire
 
     
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:40 BST (UK) »
Wow - you are impressive ;D

Thanks so much for all that you have done - helping me move forward in leaps and bounds. I have also learned a few strategies - ie the inlaw trick is something I had not really thought about and was unaware of the batch thingy with the IGI.

 How do you get a subscription to the Census - and are they regionally specific - or more general. I might not respond this evening as it is getting close to midnight here in Aus - and I have work in the morning. I am assuming you are in Britain?

Thanks

Debbie
HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe  to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus

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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 25 May 08 17:00 BST (UK) »
Census are available at several sites: Findmypast, The Genalogist, ancestry for instance. I'm not sure about the exact coverage on each of those sites - I believe ancestry still has the most complete coverage but you'll find lots of discussions about the sometimes dubious accuracy of their transcriptions.

There's also FreeCen - not complete but free (they only offer transcriptions though, not access to the actual images)
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Oh and I'm in the place my English friends seem to like calling Gay Paree 8) ;D
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