William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)

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Shannie,

How has that research been going? Have you managed to determine if your Abrahams parents were William and Rhoda or not? If so - any updates on his birth date?

I am very interested to see what you come up with.

Debbie

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Debbie
I have checked my notes and am even more unsure,all my details are just from ancestry searches and I have not confirmed details with birth or marriage certs.I have just sent for my G Grandad Lucas's so once I have that I can work back to see if confirms details I have from the searches and names given by a great Aunt are correct.
As soon as I have any details I will let you know.
Shannie

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I really look forward to hearing about what you get back.

If your great aunt remembers the names of William and Rhoda then it is likely that we are talking about the same family.

It is all fascinating stuff ....isn't it.

Debbie

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Debbie
Hope you have had a good weekend
I have just got my G Granparents marriage certificate which confirmed recents events,I have just sent off for my GG and GGG Grandparents certificates,this will then tell me my Abrahams father.Have have done some checks and 3 possible Abrahams around the time.
As soon as I have the certificates I will let you know
Sharon

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Sharon,

I had a really good weekend - thank you. We are building a new house about an hour south of Perth, the capital city of Western Australia  and visited the site on Saturday. We were really pleased to see the progress. I hope yours was also good

Thanks for keeping me informed as to what is happening with your search. I look forward to hearing the outcome of it all.

Debbie

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Debbie
I have not marriage cert yet but I have some info via an other genes site I am on.
Contact by 2 people giving same details.
It looks as if my Abraham 1831 was Williams and Rhoda nephew.
Abraham 1831 is son of Abraham b 1798(d 1836) and Ann Haywood( Ann remarries)
Abraham b1798 is the brother of Rebecca 1799 and William 1806 who married Rhoda b 1816
Williams parents are Richard b1761 and Mary Gilbert b 1771.
Hope this is of some help
Sharon

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That is good news Sharon - looks like you are on the right path at least and have the correct family - just back one generation:) We are still looking at the same family - the line just varies a little. I was very pleased to find Williams parent's names as I had no record of them before. How sure are you about the details regarding Williams parents being Richard Lucas and Mary Gilbert.  I checked back and noticed that you thought in an earlier post ( 4th June)that you thought  your Abraham had married a Mary Gilbert.

Do you mind me asking who the people were that gave you the information and whether they are likely to have any more information on William and Rhoda? Are you able to give me their emails - or perhaps the other genes site that you have be visiting. If they have some common ancestry then they might want to share information. As I mentioned to you - I have a photograph of Richard Lucas in a locket that was given to his wife. It is a reasonable picture of him. I have also seen a picture of one his brothers taken here in Western Australia - for the moment I can't recall if it was Charles or William.

As we find more information it will be good to compare and share. It is lovely to have someone searching for the same overall family.

Debbie

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Hi Debbie.
I have asked them to confirm the details for me,I got the details via GenesReunited.co.uk
I have been a membe for a while and have my family tree loaded you can then check for people with similiar details and contact to check if same person as it is done via the site I do not have details but will ask again for them to confirm details.
Sharon

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Debbie
I have not heard back from guys re checking Abrahams parents but had a play on a couple of sites and found a Richard Lucas married to a Mary Gilbert then had children Rebecca b1799 and Abraham b1800 but no William???

I then checked the census for William and Rhoda on the 1841 census they have 3 children living with them.
Abraham 1831
Richard 1840
William 1837
I am sure Abraham 1830 is my Abraham and Williams nephew.
Also noticed that had Lucas's living in the street and Ann Soden who I believe is Abraham mum and she remarried because by 1851 Abraham is living with Ann and John Soden.

On the IGI check I found 8 children for William and Rhoda
Abraham 21.7.1850
Owen 1.12.1835
Thomas 5.10.1833-11.1.1835
Thomas5.3.1843
Ann 21.12.1845
William 1.1.1837
Charles13.8.1848
Richard 9.4.1840
William must have died between 1851 and 1861 census
1861 Rhoda living with Ann and Abraham
1871 Rhoda and Abraham
Sorry if this repeats info other chatters have given you.
I hope to have the wedding certs this week so can confirm Abrahams parents.
Hope you have had a good day
Sharon