Help me I'm confused...

[Richard Knott]

Indexed under Isabella:

1881   RG11/3615
Arabella Dooley, 37, unm, needlewoman, b Ashton under Line


There is a Bellia Dooley in 1871, age 27, living in the right area (Toxteth) but I don't think it's her.

Richard

[forthefamily]

Hi Richard...that's got to be her.....but I think she's fibbing about about her age 

She was 14 on the 1851 census   

Thank you so much for your help.

mab

[Wilbo2k7]

Hi mate im from Ashton-under-lyne Lancashire in Greater manchester and it was definately never called under line/lyme thats staffordshire, its much more likely that the guy writing down the information wrote it down wrong. hope that helps. 

[stanmapstone]

Hi mate im from Ashton-under-lyne Lancashire in Greater manchester and it was definately never called under line/lyme thats staffordshire, its much more likely that the guy writing down the information wrote it down wrong. hope that helps. 

As previously posted
One document of 1422 refers to the town as "Ashton sub Lima". Ashton later became known as "Ashton under Lyme".  The name seems to have become changed to "Ashton under Lyne" by the time of the Victorian era.
http://www.ashton-under-lyne.com/history/name.htm


There is no Ashton under Line/Lyme in Staffordshire.

Stan

[stanmapstone]

If you search for Ashton under Lyme in http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp you will get 15 catalogues to match Ashton under Lyme
For example
Greater Manchester County Record Office
FILE - George Formby senior, 1915. A big music hall star at the turn of the century. A Lancashire comedian from Ashton-Under-Lyme he sang comic songs of a morbid nature. He had a lung condition and incorporated his cough into his act. - ref.  1705/216  - date: 1915

Stan

[Wilbo2k7]

Thats a misprint too mate, George Formby senior is also definately from Ashton-under-lyne lancashire, greater manchester the only famous people we have are him and Geoff hurst so its defo true 

[forthefamily]

I liked the George Formby who played the uke  I remember all his black and white movies on TV...... errr......then again we didn't have a colour TV..... hmmmm      

However Arabella and her family are still out there somewhere....rattling around in the 1841 census 

As her family were RC and classified as dissenters...I have learned a lot since my first post  ...I did a bit of research. She was probably baptized at St. Mary's which was and still is a RC church in the region. I have been in touch with the parish priest and he has a CD of the registry records in the day which I can purchase for a modest sum 

mab

[stanmapstone]

Ok, mate, its a misprint I suppose all the other references to Ashton under Lyme are misprints as well 

Lancashire Record Office: Lancashire County Quarter Sessions
FILE - ROLL 30 - ref.  QDD/30 [n.d.]
         item: Edmund Chaderton of Nuthurste, gent., to John Holcrofte of Lymehurste in Ashton-under-Lyme, gent. -- Nuthurst and Moston - ref.  QDD/30/m12  - date: 14 June 1623
Cheshire and Chester Archives and Local Studies Service
1630
   FILE - ASHTON UNDER LYME - ref.  44. [n.d.]
   FILE - ASHTON UNDER LYME - ref.  51. [n.d.]

and so on.

Stan

[stanmapstone]

ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE
Eston, 1212; Ashton, 1277; Aston, 1278; Asshton, Asheton, Assheton, 1292; Ashton-under-Lyme, 1307; Assheton-under-Lyme, 1345. Lyne, for Lyme or Lime, seems to be modern.

From: 'The parish of Ashton-under-Lyne: Introduction, manor & boroughs', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 338-347. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41438&strquery=ashton under lyme. Date accessed: 13 October 2008.


Stan