Withington Langfords

[sherlock2]

Could anyone with more experience and resources than me find a Henry Langford b. 1866 Withington, married 1905, died 1910, all Hereford district. He doesn't seem to be on any census!
                                    H.

[Keziahemm]

Hi sherlock2

How do you know he was born Withington 1866? 

Do you have his birth certificate?  If so, who were his parents?

What was his occupation on marriage certificate?

The more information the easier to find

Regards


Susan 

[sherlock2]

Hi Susan,
             thanks for your interest. I have his m. notification 1905 where he is res. Withington since birth, aged 39, ag lab. So gestimating b. abt 1866, unless he 'embellished.' There's no b. reg. in Hereford dist. for that year, so I need to look back from then, logically.
m. cert. same info. with father Thomas(dec). Not found his d. yet, but it might give a clue to area.
       d. reg. 1910 aged 44 verified.
      So you see the mystery.  Thus far I can't find any probable match in the census.
                       H.
       

[Keziahemm]

Hi

The only likely one I can find his age is out by ten years   

1871 RG10/2683 folio 18 page 7 - Henry Langford 15

1861 RG9/1817 folio 153 page 13  - Henry Langford 6

In 1861 father is Thomas Langford born Knighton Radnorshire, mother Mary,  by 1871 Thomas had died.

If you don't have access to census will post details.

Information on certificates is not always accurate, only as good as the person who gives it!

Who are the witnesses to the marriage?

Will dig deeper later.

Susan 

ps my husband has Langfords from Knighton in his tree, quite difficult to track down as there's a number of them with same christian names 

[sherlock2]

Hi Susan, yes I found this one earlier, but discounted him at the time because of the age difference. If it is him, maybe he decided to lose a few years when the lurve bug hit him at the turn of the century!
I think it is worth looking closer at this family, particularly at where they went after Thomas died. Were they still there in 1871, I don't have access currently, but would like to know the details.
Do you know which year Thomas died?
There is a Mary in 1881 actually in Withington, with a Henry 27, which matches near enough, and George 19, Albert 14. I wonder if that's her.
( The m. witnesses were Reece Rogers and Rose Emily Green)
I know what you mean about same names, an offshoot to the story is that this Henry's son had a cousin William, who's father was Henry, who's father was William. How it all fits together we don't yet know.
Who knows, if it turns out your husband is related to this group, we could be distant cuzzies. Mine's a lager, cheers.
                    Susan, thanks for your time and trouble,
                                                  regards,  H.

[Keziahemm]

Here's 1871

RG10/2683 folio 18 page 7
Shucknell (?) Hill, Yarkhill

Mary Langford  Head  Wid.  50  Employed on Farm  b: Herefordshire Withington
Henry Langford  Son  15  Farm Labourer  b: Herefordshire Withington
Thomas Langford  Son  13   -   b: Herefordshire Withington
George Langford  Son  11   -   b: Herefordshire Withington
Sarah Langford  Dau  Unm  23   -   b: Herefordshire Withington
Charles Langford  Grandson  4   -   b: Herefordshire Withington
Albert Langford  Grandson  6 mo   -   b: Herefordshire Withington


Freebmd has this death

Thomas Langford aged 62  Dec. qtr. 1866 Cleobury Mortimer vol 6a page 343  (He's too old and wrong area  )

This one is a better candidate from Freebmd although the age is out yet again 

Thomas Longford age 61, 1870 June qtr., Hereford vol 6a page 348

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Susan 


We have the confusing Langford names William and Samuel, they didn't make it easy for us did they 


Keep losing internet connection, had a thunderstorm earlier could be something to do with it.

[Keziahemm]

1861
RG9/1817 folio 153  pages 13 and 14
West Lydiat, Withington

Thomas Langford  Head  Mar  34  Master Drainer  b: Radnor Knighton
Mary Langford  Wife  36   -   b: Hereford Bodenham
William Langford  son  15  Farm Servant  b: Hereford Withington
Sarah Langford  Daur  13  Scholar  b: Hereford Withington
Henry Langford  son  6   -   b: Hereford Withington
Thomas Langford  son  4   -   b: Hereford Withington
George Langford  son  4 m   -   b: Hereford Withington


Difference in Mary's age 1861 to 1871 


Susan 

[Keziahemm]

1851
HO107/1977  folio 352 page 16
West Lydiatt, Withington

Thomas Langford  Head  Mar  20  Ag. Lab.  b: N.K.
Mary Langford  Wife  Mar  32  -  b: Hereford Bronham (?)
William Langford  son  -  6   -   b: Hereford Withington
Sarah Langford  Daur  -  3   -   b: Hereford Withington 
Charles Langford  son  -  4 mo   -   b: Hereford Withington

Dont' think they knew how old they were, according to this Thomas would have been 14 when William was born 

Susan 

[The snooper]

Hi,

There is the following birth.

Date: 21/01/1845   
Name: LANGFORD   WILLIAM   
Father: THOMAS   - LABOURER   
Mother: WILLIAMS MARY   
Area: WITHINGTON   

Could this be your man - seems to fit with the 1851 census...

Contact me off line if you want more regarding siblings etc.

The Snooper