Warner

[unclenorm45]

Hi, Norm Redpath here from Canada. My maternal grandfather, William Roderick McLeish, (Canadian) was posted to England during the first world war. Although he was married at the time, to my grand mother, he was married again as per the story below. Can anyone shed any light on this family of Warner's.  If by chance I'm in the wrong County in England, please redirect me. Thanks, Norm

A daugher born 1917, at 1 Varna Villas, Broomhill, Orpington, daughter of William Roderick McLeish and Elsie Winnifred McLeish formerly Warner

Parents were married 18 May 1917. Elsie was 19 years old, a spinster, with no rank or profession listed. Her father was Arthur Warner, a Coachman (Domestic). Witnesses were Arthur Warner and Alice Warner. [may be brother and sister in law].

This may be the family I am seeking
Arthur – b – Midhurst, West Sussex
Annie – b – 1863 Islington, London
Beatrice Annie – b – 1884 Orpington, Bromley
Arthur William – b – 1886
Henry Samuel – b – 1888
Ernest Frank – b – 1890
Robert Charles – b – 1892
Gertrude  Maud – 1894
Constance May  - b – 1895
Elsie Winnifred – b – 1897
Frederick Walter - 1899

[Jane Masri]

Hi Norm,
Orpington is in KENT so this query might get more response over on that board.  Having said that, it looks like you have the right family from the 1901 census  RG13/691/120/31 & they were living in Orpington at the time.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'sheding light' on this family    did you want to trace her father back?
What happened to Aileen & her mother, Elsie?

jane

[Valda]

Hi Norm

I'm doing a bit of housekeeping on the Surrey board.
Do you wish me to move this post to the the Kent Look Up Board?

Regards

Valda
Surrey Moderator

[unclenorm45]

Hi, sorry I was so long in getting back to you. Yes, if This subject needs to be moved, please do so and I will see what happens there. Our Grandfather was quite a mystery to all of us kids and we are trying to track down any and all our relations from that marriage.
Norm

[PeebBrown]

Hi there UncleNorm45, I am from Kent, England and am the granddaughter of Elsie Warner/McLeish who then became Elsie Brown.

I realise I am very late to the party reading your message from 2008 re Elsie Warner/McLeish and William Roderick McLeish but better late than never - I hope.

I was excited to see your messages and that you knew what your grandfather had been up to when he was in England back in the day.

I am Elsie's granddaughter from her later marriage to Henry John Brown. Once William went off to France with his regiment it appears Elsie was left holding the baby, literally. I read that William went on to have further children with his first wife when he returned to Canada. I thought that Elsie's connection would likely be a secret.

Elsie married Henry in 1925 (don’t know if the marriage to William was annulled) and they had two children Peter John Brown in 1926 (my father) and Hazel Brown in 1928. My dad didn't ever mention Aileen, so I wonder where she was when Elsie married Henry? She would have been 7 or 8.

Looking on Ancestry, Aileen may have gone on to have a son Anthony E D Spooner in 1938 and it looks like he unfortunately died that year too. I did find a record that indicated Aileen herself died in 1941.

Elsie sadly died in 1931 when dad and Hazel were 5 and 3. Henry went on to remarry and dad and Hazel grew up with two half sisters. Elsie was part of dad's long and distant past by the time I and my sister came along.

So, I am related to the Warner clan but don't know much about them unfortunately. After taking a DNA test last year I find I have lots of cousin matches to connect with as Elsie had lots of brothers and sisters as per your list.

Regards PeebBrown

[grandarog]

Maybe not yours . 
   Aileen McLeish bn 1917  married  David T J Murray in May 1987. Bedford 9-260.