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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 May 08 20:13 BST (UK) »
could it be Bruch or Bruich lyon  :-\

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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 May 08 23:03 BST (UK) »
Maybe wrong but could those two words beginning with B both be Parish. Can't help with the rest as yet but just a suggestion which may help solve the mystery.

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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 May 08 23:35 BST (UK) »
Here is an extract from Joan Blaeu's 1665 maps of Scotland. Looks like this could be the place. Needy, Mill of Nedy - no Hill but perhaps its in this vicinity and just wasn't put on the map. According to this map Needy is not too far from both St Andrews and Ceres.

Hope this helps.

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Just removed the map extract because I am not sure of copyright. Needy and Mill of Nedy are both on the Eden. If you want a copy of the extract, please let me know.
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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 May 08 04:36 BST (UK) »
Diddy,

My immediate reaction was Bucklyvie - with the end of the word slightly truncated.

Bucklyvie is in the parish of Aberdour.  It seems from the IGI that Banns were called in both
Aberdour and Dunfermline.  Their first child was bap in Aberdour, the rest in Leuchars.

Do you have both marriage entries?  The other might be clearer.
Also the Aberdour baptism?

I agree with Ruby that for Catherine it says 'the Parish of Dunfermline' - with Parish truncated.

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PS: Ruby, earlier Henry7 found a Neidy Hill SE of Ceres.  And I found a Nydie Hill ( to go with the
Neidy Mill which KirstyG had found before that, NNE of Ceres).  Spellings vary.
A Google for
"Nydie Hill"
gets a few hits.
So there's no definitive answer yet.   


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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 May 08 07:47 BST (UK) »
wow,thanks everyone - i did think it liiked more like Buck /Buch so that looks more likely Jap.
i have 7 children (Iam descended from the youngest):
Henry, Andrew,catherine,anne,jemima,Flockhard,and isabella i have dates for all of these but they are down as leuchars. have you got another one jap as my first is born 1801.(6 years after marriage)

I think we are on the right track with neidy Hill.

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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 May 08 08:13 BST (UK) »
Diddy,

From the IGI:
Aberdour
Janet b 10, bap 12 Jun 1796
Barbara b 10, bap 16 Jan 1798
David b 25, bap 28 Nov 1799

Leuchars
Henry b&bap 1801
Andrew b&bap 1803
Catherine b 1805/bap 1806
Alexander b&bap 1808
Anne b&bap 1811
Jemima b&bap 1813
Flockhard b&bap 1815
Isabella b&bap 1818

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PS: Janet & Barbara have the mother's name spelled FLOCCART
Flockhard's has it FLOCKHARD
The rest have FLOCKHART

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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 May 08 16:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that i didn't know about the first three!!

Yes on the marriage cert she is Flockart  but on her death cert her parents are Flockhart.
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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 June 08 10:22 BST (UK) »


Hello Diddy,

It looks as if you're working on Henry Aitken, the son of Thomas Aitken and Jean Braid who married on the 29th of November, 1745 at Cameron in Fife. Henry was baptised at Nydiehill, which is in the wee village of Ceres in Fife.

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Re: ceres village?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 June 08 12:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Tom,

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you've said above about "Nydiehill" and, to help us all, give your sources/reasons?

As stated in the scan in the original post, yes it is indeed Henry AITKEN son of Thomas AITKEN and Jean BRAID.

And, as the original post indicates, Henry was indeed baptized in the parish of Ceres, Fife.

From the scan, we see that his parents were described as being "in Neidy-hill" (spelling back then was, of course, variable/phonetic).

Are you agreeing with Henry7 (reply #3) that it is Neidy Hill, nearly 3m ESE of Ceres (which Henry7 found on a 1775 map but not on other/later maps)?

And are you saying that it is definitely not Nydie Hill (near Nydie Mill, Nydie Mains, etc) NNE of Ceres (in the parish of St Andrews but certainly closer to Ceres than to St A) which was also mentioned?

Or what  ???

I believe we felt that we couldn't say definitively which it was.

Do you have further information which might help??

Regards,

JAP