robert jones, Llanarmon, Denbighshire

[Gadget]

It might be worth it as the June quarter was April - June and births registrations were often delayed or not even registered 

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[JamesDMcBust]

Hi Paul
Sorry it's been a while - the birth certificate took more than 10 days to arrive, meanwhile I've been on holiday.

Well, the eventual certificate shows (and I got them to check mother was Emma, father Robert) that the mother's former name was Thomas, her residence being Mount, Brymbo - father's profession was joiner.

[Gadget]

North Wales BMD have a marriage, Wrexham -civil marriage 1866:

Robert Jones with an Emma Thomas as a possible spouse.

So if it's this one the marriage won't be in the parish records.



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GRO|Ref - Sept Q, 1866, Wrexham, vol 11b page 452

 

[FamilyDigger]

Hello there
Robert is also in my family tree, do you his mother down as Margaret?

[JamesDMcBust]

Good morning, We've established that my Robert Jones' mother was Margaret and his father was John.  The trouble with searching a name like Jones (esp in Wales) is that unless you have lots of siblings/children it is difficult to prove.  Perhaps, your Robert is a cousin of mine - did he come from Llanarmon Yn Yale?

[FamilyDigger]

Yes he did come from Llanarmon, it was one of his sibling's Mary is a greatgreatgreat grandmother of mine. Roberts mother and father that I have are also called Margaret and John. Margaret was born C.1808. I can't remember what year John was Ill have to check.
What relation is Robert to you? Its a small world isn't it.

[Gadget]

Could I just clarify that there are two Llanarmons in Denbighshire. Llanarmon yn Ial (near Ruthin) and Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog at the Oswestry end of the county.

I noticed on the other thread that you have Oswestry roots, FamilyDigger. Could you mean the Llanarmon DC one?

Robert Jones marrying a Margaret is not all that uncommon - I've got two sets 


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[FamilyDigger]

My husband side of the family is oswestry - even though that's where I lived, and my side of the family is flintshire, warwickshire and Denbighshire - Llanarmon (near Ruthin) is where alot of my family (mums side) are from too, not Llanarmon DC.
There are alot of similarities, including the year of birth, parents names and the area which they were born. But granted, Robert Jones is a common name.

[JamesDMcBust]

FamilyDigger
I'm so sorry, but I appear to have given you duff information about my Robert Jones' mother.  I told you she was called Margaret, when in fact she was called Sarah.  She (Sarah) and husband John are listed on the
1851 census, with their young family (including Robert).  John & Sarah can be found in later censii but without Robert who would have left home by then.

HO107/2504 Folio 27 Page 14
Brenhinlle or Bronhinlle, Chwyleiriog, Llanarmon in Yale, Ruthin

John Jones, 34, farmer of 13 acres, b.Abergele
Sarah, 33, b. Lanarmon Yale
Robert, 10, scholar, b. Lanarmon Yale
Jabez, 8, scholar, b. Lanarmon Yale
Anne, 6, scholar, b. Lanarmon Yale
Sarah, 3, b. Lanarmon Yale

Do these names ring any bells?