robert jones, Llanarmon, Denbighshire

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As he is shown born Brymbo, my bet would be that he is Deborah's brother and also the son of Robert.

As I said earlier, Robert Jones is one of the most difficult names to locate in records. I gave two references to a Deborah Jones birth registration:

Two possible birth registrations for Deborah Jones:

Wrexham

Mar q, 1869, vol 11b, page 322

and

June q, 1869 vol 11b, page 300

James - i think you should get one of these certificates. It's possible to specify that the father was Robert so that you don't have to purchase both.

We've come a long way since you gave us Margaret Walters - was that possibly Robert's first wife 


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There are 18 marriage refs to a Robert Jones marrying in the Wrexham Registration District 1867-69.  I think getting Deborah's birth cert might be the best chance of finding who Robert's first wife was.

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This looks very much like Robert in 1871. His place of birth is shown as Llandelgla rather than Llanarmon but they are quite close or it could be misinformation by his landlord

1871

Queens Head Inn, Brymbo
RG10/5654 folio 24 page 15

Thomas Taylor, 29, head, engine driver and Innkeeper, b. Liverpool

...........

Robert Jones, boarder, widower, 30, carpenter, b. Llandegla


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[JamesDMcBust]

Hi gadget/silvery
I will order a birth certificate for Deborah Jones as you suggest.  As for Margaret Walters being Robert's first wife.  I had been inputting information on another area of my tree during the same evening and I seem to muddled up the wife's name from another family.  A case of trying to be too clever!

Thank you very much for your dedicated help on this subject.

[Paul]

Hello James

Before you order certificates. If you give me names, dates and places I'll have a look for baptisms they also give parents names.

Paul.

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Hi Paul

Names, dates and places are on the thread 

I did think of suggesting that we might call you in    It looks like Robert's (1841)parents were John and Sarah, Llanarmon yn Ial

if you could get a baptism for Deborah (1869/70) Brymbo probably), it would get a mother's name 


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[Paul]

Hello. Lanarmon yn Lal baptisms 1840-1850.

Oct 17 1840. Robert Jones S/O Thomas & Sarah. Miner.
June 23 1844. William Jones S/O John & Sarah. Tailor.
March 17 1847. Ellin Jones D/O John & Sarah. Tailor.
I couldn't see a Robert with parents John & Sarah.

Brymbo baptism.  April 23 1869.
Deborah. D/O Robert & Emma Jones. abode, Mount. Fathers Occ, Carpenter.

Wrexham marriage May 25 1874.
Robert Jones. 32. Bachelor. Joiner. Brymbo. Father John. Occ, Farmer.
Charlotte Smith. 22. Spinster. Wrexham. Father, George. Occ, Labourer.
Witnesses. Thomas Rogers & Sarah Smith.

Gwersyllt baptisms.
March 5 1876. Emily. D/O Robert & Charlotte Jones. Gwersyllt Hill. Joiner.
Jan 20 1878. Walter S/O Robert & Charlotte Jones. Gwersyllt. Joiner.

Paul.

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So Robert's first wife was Emma. Good one Paul 

Now, we need a marriage for them, if you have a chance, please   - L yn Ial or Brymbo, I would think 

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