Author Topic: robert jones, Llanarmon, Denbighshire (Read 12160 times)

Gadget · « **Reply #9 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 13:54 BST (UK) »

I'm wondering if Robert was previously married before he married Charlotte. There is a big gap between Deborah and Emily.

Two possible birth registrations for Deborah Jones:

Wrexham

Mar q, 1869, vol 11b, page 322

and

June q, 1869 vol 11b, page 300

The first is most likely because of the timing of the census but it could be the second if it was a late registration.

Gadget

JamesDMcBust · « **Reply #10 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:01 BST (UK) »

I've just made contact with someone who has this Robert Jones in his tree. He gives wife's maiden name as Charlotte Smith and marriage as 1874 Wrexham. He gives 5 children Emily Ann, Walter, Florence, Lottie & John Albert. (Just seen new posting) He was as you correctly guessed married before and had daughter Deborah.

Gadget · « **Reply #11 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:04 BST (UK) »

Right, we're getting somewhere

Marriage - Wrexham, June Q, 1874, vol 11b, page 545

Gadget

It does help if we have the correct names

silvery · « **Reply #12 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:05 BST (UK) »

1871 Wales RG10/5659/20/7

Bodigeyr yr larl and Llanarmon

John Jones 53 farm lab b Abergele
Sarah 52
Caleb 13
Elizabeth 9
Deborah 1 g'dau b Broughton
Robert 1 g'son b Wrexham

Looks like you may have found this one earlier, Gadget.

Gadget · « **Reply #13 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:07 BST (UK) »

So my first 1851 looks correct

Gadget

wrjones · « **Reply #14 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:14 BST (UK) »

This is the only Charlotte Smith I can find in the general area in the 1861 Census.She is showing as born in Caca Dutton Isycoed Denbighshire the daughter of George and Anne Smith both of Caca Dutton.RG9/4279/28/15.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham

JamesDMcBust · « **Reply #15 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:39 BST (UK) »

Thanks once again for helping me out.
I've looked in the1861 census and find the following. I think this is the same family.

John Jones 1817
Sarah 1819
Sarah 1848
Pamely 1853
John 1855
Caleub 1858

Robert was 20 in 1861 and would have left home.

You give Robert & Deborah as grandchildren to John & Sarah in the 1871 census. Who would their parents have been? This is getting me a little confused. This Robert & Deborah were both born in 1870.

silvery · « **Reply #16 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 14:50 BST (UK) »

In 1881 census Deborah aged 12 is with Robert and Charlotte, classed as daughter, this will be to Robert, as he didn't marry Charlotte until 1874.

Robert aged 1 in 1871 so he might also be the son of Robert, having the same name, or maybe not. Birth cert would show.

silvery · « **Reply #17 on:** Sunday 18 May 08 15:02 BST (UK) »

Wales 1881 RG11/5521/19/9

Llanarmon yn lal, Ruthin

John Jones 63 farmer 14 acres b Abergele
Sarah 62 b Llanarmon
Robert 11 g'son b Brymbo

So Robert is still with his grandparents. He could be son of Robert. Perhaps if we could determine his birth reg, or marriage............

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