Male or Female?

[honey-roma88]

Have a read down this, Roma
http://www.brown.edu/Courses/Digital_Path/Lungs/bronchopneumonia.htm

Many people died of Bronchitis /pneumonia. A lot was to do with the conditions they lived in. When people were ill and confined to bed, I believe the lung disorders set in.
Perhaps there were no broken ribs, but the poor lamb was injured enough to be confined to bed and deteriorated.

Which ever way, it is a tragic story.

Edit - I just posted your quote without reply Doh!

They were definitely very poor so it's perfectly possible but Johnny always said it was a direct result of her dad dropping her when he threw her in the air and Lobar pneumonia can be caused by infections when an individual lung is injured.
Who knows. 
I just wish the certificate had been more conclusive, perhaps if Charlotte had registered the death because John is such a common name and I never knew his occupation. I might have to get the birth certificate just to make sure but I think it is likely that this is her.

[honey-roma88]

I know North end road well my husband used to live off there.

My nan still lives on Anselm Road which is off North End Road. My family have lived in the same house since the early 1900s. 

[Rabbit B]

Hi Everyone,

What an informative site that is!  The Pictures are superb.

It is dreadful to think that this poor child might have fractured a rib when she fell and that it might have punctured her lung!

I feel for her Dad having to live with that dreadful accident!

Rabbit B 

[honey-roma88]

Hi Everyone,

What an informative site that is!  The Pictures are superb.

It is dreadful to think that this poor child might have fractured a rib when she fell and that it might have punctured her lung!

I feel for her Dad having to live with that dreadful accident!

Rabbit B 

It is a great site. It's very interesting that it says that alcoholics are susceptible to lobar pneumonia as the my ggg uncle who was dragged down North End Road was a terrible alcoholic. He was only 32 when he died.

[elin]

Poor little soul! 

I am pleased that you probably have the answer to your question.  I would be inclined  to get the birth certificate if you can, just to be sure.

Elin

[gisela]

Hi honey-roma88,

So sorry to read about such a tragic accident.  The father must have carried this burden for the rest of his life poor man. What beautiful children they are, such a wonderful photo, I've done a quick restored and colourized.

thanks for sharing

regards


gisela  

[luas]

I suspect the customs relating to children's attire varied with region and also with ethnic and social background.  This is clearly a formal portrait taken in a studio, for which the children would have been thoroughly scrubbed and dressed up.  The garment with lace which the boy is wearing (for he undoubtedly is a boy) may have been handed down through the family.  He's perhaps a bit too young to be self-conscious in it.

[bubs]

i would say the one on the left is the girl she has the bonnett i dont thin boys wore bonnetts like that


BUBS

[Rabbit B]

Hello everyone 

I have received the certificate and I think it might well be her meaning the elder child would be the girl. Although I still can't be definite it does look like it is her. The father is John Holland, a hawker and she died in Southwark Infirmary. She appears to have died from Lobar Pneumonia - strangely enough the second person in my family to die from it. My gg grandfather's brother died of it after he broke his ribs being dragged by his horse on his rag and bone cart down the North End Road. I assume she must have had her ribs broken, just like Felix and infection set in. We had always assumed she had broken her neck but I suppose he would have had to turn her right over but he must have just dropped her. I will probably get the birth certificate now just to be extra sure but it seems pretty clear.

Thank you everyone for helping me. 

Hi Honey-roma88

This family must have been fairly comfortable, to have afforded such quality clothing for the children.  They look extremely well dressed don't they!

Rabbit B