Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 8

Author Topic: Male or Female?  (Read 10729 times)

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:01 BST (UK) »
Sorry!  Missed where you suggested this earlier.   :-[
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:08 BST (UK) »
If you let us know the locations, we could do a BMD lookup.

There's

John R Holland Oct qtr 1911 in Bolton, Lancs - mother's maiden name Cunliffe
John R Holland Oct qtr 1911 in Lambeth - mother's maiden name Putland
John R Holland born in 1912 in Spalding, Lincs - mother's maiden name Bower


Several female Holland births in Bolton in 1908, and in Lambeth.  Can't see a likely one in Spalding.

Any help?
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

Offline elin

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,031
  • Madisaurus Vex
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:16 BST (UK) »
Can't help myself! ::)  I have been looking on ancestry.  There is an Adelaide B. Holland born 1908 and died 1912 in Birmingham.  Any possibility,  I don't think you said where they were from?

Elin
Foxwell (Wotton Under Edge and South Wales), Howell (Stroud & Wotton Under Edge), Jones (South Wales) Merrigan (Liverpool), Kelly (Liverpool) Titley (Lincolnshire and Staffordshire)  Hellier (Somerset and Monmouthshire)           All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline honey-roma88

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 279
  • Grandad Cecil
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you elin and Igor Strav.  :)

I'm not sure it could be the Adelaide one as they were from Lambeth and as far as I know they never moved (although that is such a pretty name).  :)

Quote
John R Holland Oct qtr 1911 in Lambeth - mother's maiden name Putland

That is him, his mother was Charlotte Putland and his father was John 'Jack' Holland. I am related to the mother. I wondered if the girl may have been born before Johnny because there are no other Holland babies born to a Putland mother on ancestry.com so perhaps she was born before they put the mother's name onto the site...if you see what I mean.

Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:29 BST (UK) »
I have put all three faces on one image, and I think, having looked at them - that the elder child is Johnny.

There is a shadow under the eyes which seems to be reproduced in the picture of him when older.  Hope this will come out so you can see.

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:33 BST (UK) »
However, I can't see another Holland child on Ancestry with the mother's name Putland - which must mean that the birth was BEFORE 1911 when the maiden name was shown.

Back to the drawing board!
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:35 BST (UK) »
Births


Doris Hilda Holland 1907 Lambeth
Ena Holland 1907 Lambeth
Harriet Maud Holland 1907 Lambeth
Phyllis Hyde Holland 1907 Lambeth
Emily Grace Holland 1908 Lambeth

Will look through deaths
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:44 BST (UK) »
Am struggling, here.  There is one possible death:


Deaths

Jane Holland born about 1908, died 1912 Apr Qtr Camberwell, Surrey.

this is close to Lambeth.  Can't see any matching Lambeth deaths.

However I can't see Jane's birth in 1908 in either Lambeth or Camberwell.

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

Offline IgorStrav

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,957
  • Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
    • View Profile
Re: Male or Female?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 18 May 08 19:48 BST (UK) »
Could be this one:

Jane Elizabeth Holland Jul qtr 1908 Southwark.

Close by both Lambeth and Camberwell
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 8