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Re: Help please?
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:24 BST (UK) »
No I dont think hes ours - I've got Charles Edwin as dying in 1889 in Portsea Island because my Elizabeth was only 3 years old
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« Reply #37 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:27 BST (UK) »
I clicked on your link and his surname was Hannsey not Hanney
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« Reply #38 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:31 BST (UK) »
Yes but the image isn't clear (and he's clearly the same man as in 1901 where the surname IS clear) :)

So are we assuming now that Charles Force is Charles Hanney aka Charles Montague? :P Any idea where the family are hiding in 1871?  ???
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« Reply #39 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:35 BST (UK) »
I know that at some point he deserted his kids because he was in trouble with the Bath Court Sessions (found not guilty but we cant find out for what) maybe he just decided to come south.  In the end he was a Circus Manager, a Commissioning Agent and finally a Photographer! Obviously a very busy man!! - I've been trying to work it out on and off for about 2 years now so dont worry if it gets you confused!!
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« Reply #40 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:43 BST (UK) »
It does seem that when he lives with a woman he takes on their surname - because Eveline and the children are his children.  Maybe hes on the run!! (Dont you wish you could just ask them ;))
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« Reply #41 on: Thursday 15 May 08 21:01 BST (UK) »
I just  wanted to say Thanks for what you have done - I've got to go and put my son to bed!! so thanks and goodnight!! :)
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« Reply #42 on: Friday 16 May 08 07:39 BST (UK) »
This is a big headache!  ;D

So - may I ask which certificates you actually have? The marriage cert to Alice, I suppose, giving his father's name as James? Who were the witnesses - any siblings?

Now you were wondering whose child Charles born ca. 1867 was. I suppose he belonged to Alice:

1871
RG10/2482 40 15
Bath St Michael, Somerset
Allice Hanney, head, wid, 28, Laundress, b. Gloucester
Ellen, dau, 6, scholar, b. Somerset Bath
Charles, son, 3, scholar, b. do.
Allice, dau, 1, b. do.

Funny that Charles took the boy with him later! I wonder if she died early for him to do so?
I see Alice is with her Bishop grandparents in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=18793207
RG11/2437 56 10

Anyway in the meantime, in 1871, Mary Force is in service (a cook), unm, age 22 at Wymering Hampshire.
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« Reply #43 on: Monday 19 May 08 19:50 BST (UK) »
Hi, I just wanted to say "Thank you" again you've been a great help and it is very much appreciated. :)
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« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 21:44 BST (UK) »
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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