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Re: Help please?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 15 May 08 19:30 BST (UK) »
Well, I'm beginning to wonder if we are tracing the right people  :P

Where is your Elizabeth in 1891?
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 15 May 08 19:32 BST (UK) »
Portsmouth
Fielder (Portsmouth,Hants/Pembroke Dock, Wales)
Montague (Southsea, Hants)
Force (Portchester, Hants)

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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 15 May 08 19:42 BST (UK) »
Ok, as Bessie, right?

So this is the family in 1881, called Force, before Mary was widowed - husband Charles Force.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=6587966
RG11/1150 54 28

Given Mary is widowed in 1891, she married Mr Henney or Montague between 1881 and 1891 and was widowed again, correct? 

I'm not sure he was the Charles Henney born Bath that we were tracing because I do believe he is still alive in 1901!  ??? 


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« Reply #30 on: Thursday 15 May 08 19:48 BST (UK) »
I've got her down as married to Henry Force - but Charles also married an Alice Bishop and had children by him too (20/5/1865) and they had Ellen and Alice - with Mary Force he had Evelyn, Lilian, Harry, William, Elizabeth, Frederick and Henry
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« Reply #31 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:04 BST (UK) »
Blimey you've completely lost me now! Which Charles is the father of all those kids? Charles Force born 1840 Bristol?  ???
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« Reply #32 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:10 BST (UK) »
Charles Edwin Hanney born 1840 was the father of all the children - his father was James Hanney.  It is really complicated because he also had a Charles Hannay (son) but we are not sure which of the women he was born to, either Mary Force or Alice Bishop.  Further back you mentioned a marriage between Henry Jacob Hanney and Sarah Bishop - it would seem odd two brothers marrying women with same surnames (sisters?)
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« Reply #33 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:12 BST (UK) »
I think we are looking at the right people because my Charles Edwin was born in Bath to a James Hannay - he was in the circus and ended up moving around lots.
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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:14 BST (UK) »
He was also in the Court roundup for stealing from the Theatre Royal Bath (15lbs of horsehair? - I've been told they used to stuff the seats with it so maybe his settee at home wasnt very comfortable?) :-\
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« Reply #35 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:20 BST (UK) »
Well, what do you make of this chap then?  :-\

1901
RG13/127 141 21
Hampstead, London

Henry Farbairn, head, Joinr Carpenter, b. Stepney
Emma M, wife, 27, b do.
Stanley L, son, 1 mo, b. do.
Charles Hanney, father in law, wid, 60, Hydraulic Engineer, b. Somerset Bath

1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=15336164  
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