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Mills in Stepney
« on: Tuesday 13 May 08 19:29 BST (UK) »
I have just received the death cert for my ggg Grandfather who died in 1854 of cholera in Stepney.  He was by trade a miller.  His wife was present at his death and gave her address as Chelsea.  He came originally from Dover and later moved to Iver in Bucks before moving to London.  1851C shows him in Chelsea.  I am puzzled as to why he was "away" from home, did he have a mill there.  The family appeared to have some money as the children were well educated.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 08:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Denise,

Where is Stepney did gggGrandfather die?  Is the address easy to read?  Might get some clues from that.

If his wife was present perhaps they were with a member of their family.

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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 18:08 BST (UK) »
Address at time of death was Arbour Terrace.  As far as I can tell the rest of the family lived in Islington and City Road are. 
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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 May 08 22:57 BST (UK) »
Hi, The more information you give the easier it is to help. You do not even give his name?

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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 May 08 23:04 BST (UK) »
deleted ....seems I was wrong  :-[
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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 May 08 23:08 BST (UK) »

Have you looked for his Will?   It might refer to a property in Arbour Terrace or Stepney.  There might be mention of  someone (relative) xxxxxxx  "of Stepney" or "of Arbour Terrace".


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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 May 08 08:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies.  Yes I should have given his name.  Edward POWELL.  I have not yet had a chance to look at a will for him as I am in the middle of a trip round Europe. 
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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 14:15 BST (UK) »
1854 + Cholera = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outbreak ?

It is possible that he was moved to the Arbour Terrace address when he became ill, either because there was a relative there or for medical treatment. Especially since his wife was still living in Chelsea.

1852 London directory, the following are listed at Arbour Terrace (searched for Arbour Ter on historicaldirectories and then Arbour w/4 Commercial to pick everything up):

Bourne, Wm, upholsterer, 4 Arbour Ter., Commerical rd east
Gable, John, house agent, 12 Arbour Ter., Commerical rd east
Hort, John Kempton, bootmaker, 5 Arbour Ter., Commerical rd east (& 64 Church-lane, Whitechapel)
Keohan, Thomas, optician, 2 Arbour Ter., Commerical rd east
Mann, Richard, shipowner, 18 Arbour Ter., Commerical rd east

Following the 'for medical reasons' line of thought, in 1861 (starting RG9/293 28/18), Arbour Terrace, there is a surgeon at no. 7 (John Erith? Surname is hard to read), and a Gen Practitioner, Robt Howlett, at no. 5.

Also, Jane A. Powell, 24, single and unmarried, b. Shadwell, was living at 3 Arbour Terrace (house servant). A G. F. or C. F. Powell, aged 26, unmarried (woman), b. Stepney, was also living at Hardwick St (nearby) as a servant.
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Re: Mills in Stepney
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 14:22 BST (UK) »
Denise, 

I have an ancestor who was a Baker , some were Journeyman who  travelled around to where the work was,   I wonder if a Miller might be the same.  :-\

The title journeyman has nothing to do with travelling around.  It means that he has completed his apprenticeship and has not yet established himself with his own business as a master baker or miller.  Frequently they stayed with the same master as the one with whom they completed their apprenticeship.

It comes from the French "Journee" meaning paid by the day.

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