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Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« on: Saturday 10 May 08 21:46 BST (UK) »
I am reasearching Henry O'Neill/O'Neil who was born 23 November 1883 in Oldham to Henry O'Neill and Elizabeth Rouke.

Henry Jr married Mabel Brunnen in Bolton in 1919, but was a widower when he married, he had children from his previous marriage.

Would appreciate any help in finding any information on him.

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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 May 08 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do you have census information?  In 1891, Henry Jnr whith parents Henry and Elizabeth are lodging at 47 Dawes St, Bolton with

James and Kate Gavan and two year old Annie.

I can get full details.  I'm not sure what you're short of.

Best wishes

Emms.

PS Update: 
There's A Henry O'Neill married by 1901 to Sarah, with baby Herbert, at 25, Hanson St Oldham,
age slightly out at 26, Sarah 32, but I can't see another entry that fits.
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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 May 08 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Emms

I am not currently subscribed to any census site so I haven't got this information.  I am waiting till I receive the marriage certificate I ordered so I have the parents age before I subscribe to a census site.  I was at a complete loss with this branch, as O'Neill is a common name and also the spelling keeps on switching.  I am only now able to start researching it as we happened to find his birth certificate at my nan's house.

Thank you for your help, using this information I think I have found them on the 1881 census, lodging at 32 Back Dawes street.  Did the info you found say the were also born in Bolton?   On the 1881 census Henry Snr's occupation is given as a Slater's Labourer which is also how he is described on Henry Jnr's marriage certificate.  So I think this is them. Thanks


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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 May 08 16:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'll get all the census info for you.  Slater is definitely familiar, I think the wife was born Bolton but I'll check it out.

I didn't want toflood you with stuff you'd already got though.  I'll get back to you.

Meanwhile, anything I can help with, let me know.  I'll look at 1871 too.

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas


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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 May 08 17:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Again!

1891 Ref is RG 12/3122

45 Dawes St

James Gavan(25) an out porter (employed) and Wife Kate(30)
with daughter Annie(2)

Lodgers
Henry O'Neil (34, slater) and Elizabeth (32 cotton doubler), both married presumably to each other and employed.
Son Henry,7

All born Bolton escept James Gavan who is born Liverpool.

I'll get back to you

Best wishes

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 May 08 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

1901 has Oldham St James - Ref RG 13/3817

25 Hanson St

Henry O'Neill (26, filer and cutter) and wife Sarah (32), with son Herbert, 3 months.   All born Oldham.

Only thing that doesn't wuite fit is Henry Jnr born Oldham or Bolton.  Censuses aren't perfect, but I'll see what else there is.

Best wishes

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 May 08 22:20 BST (UK) »
Hi

Howabout these in 1871, lodging at 29 Back Dawes St, Bolton??

[RG10/3940]

Bolton Church District
29  Back Dawes St

Alice Wallace Wife Mar  31 Factory Hand
William   do     Son          8
Elizabeth   do  Dau         4
Peter  do        Bro inLaw 18 Labourer
Henry O'Neil     Cousin   17 Factory hand

All born Bolton

I'll have another look.

Best wishes

Emms

Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 May 08 22:35 BST (UK) »
Hello you two,
Henry and Elizabeth married in Bolton September quarter 1880 Bolton Vol 8c pg 424.
(apologies if you already have this)
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Re: Henry O'Neill/O'Neil born Oldham 1883
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 May 08 22:41 BST (UK) »
1871 RG10; Piece: 3943; Folio: 65; Page: 19
12 Chapel Alley Bolton
Lizzie Rourke 12 yrs with mother Margaret (born Ireland) and other siblings all born Bolton.
Can post if or when you need the info.

(no Elizabeths)
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