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Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« on: Wednesday 07 May 08 11:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

One of my relatives (Samuel Charles Falgate) was the skipper on HM Drifter "Hilary II" when it was sunk by a mine on 25th March 1916. I have managed to find some details at the National Archives about the incident. It has quite a lot of information about crew members but very little on the skipper. ???

According to CWGC he is listed on the Chatham Naval Memorial but i cannot find a death certificate for him is this usual? The boat apparently went down 5 miles of the coast of Kent.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Geoff
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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 November 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
hello,
       hope you can help me, my great grandad was killed on drifter hilary II and I havent got any info about him other than his name, Henry Maston Smith
Can you let me know if he is mentioned in the literature you have obtained
many thanks
peter foskett
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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 November 08 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Geoff/Peter
They were Royal Naval Reserve...I got a service record for one of my RNR lads from the Fleet air arm museum at Yeovilton in Somerset.They sent me a photocopy of his Record for a donation to the museum.

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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter

Henry Marston Smith was an engineman RNR. His number was 2508 TS. His next of kin is listed as Anna Elizabeth Smith and i have two addresses for them; 10 Tower Street Great Yarmouth and 22 Abysinnia Road, Great Yarmouth.

I have emailed you if you would like the information.

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Geoff
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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 11:15 GMT (UK) »

Hi Geoff,

Have you tried looking for your chap on the National Archives site?

See: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/rnvr.asp

Cheers, Romilly :) :)
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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Romilly

Yes I have had a look on there but he is not listed. I have just tried the Fleet Air Arm Museum and  are waiting a response.

Many thanks
Geoff
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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Geoff,

Fingers crossed that you get something from the FAAM soon.

I recieved copies of info from them on my late father & two of his brothers, (they were all in the RNR, WW1). Unfortunately the FAAM only had Ledger Entries for them, (relating to pay) & not their actual Service Records, - these are on microfiche at Kew apparantly. (I haven't managed to find them as yet, although I've been to Kew several times to look for them).

However, the info from the FAAM does list all of the ships that they served on, & does also give some health details; which is useful.

You might also find something on here:

http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCasAlpha1914-18H2.htm

Best Wishes, Romilly :)
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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 January 09 11:51 GMT (UK) »
I have only just started my family research and already having a problem with my grandfather.
My grandfather was Henry Maston Smith of Great Yarmouth the only one I can find in the 1911 census is married to Eliza and they have seven children, my father George Robert Smith was born in 1911 just after the census so no mention of him.
Is there a way I can find out if they had more children after the 1911 census.
The other problem i am finding is when putting in a seach for Henry Maston Smith I get different spelling of the middle name IE: Maston, Mastons and Marston.

Thanks for any help.

Terry

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Re: Lost at sea - death certificate WW1
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 January 09 12:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Terry,

And welcome to Rootschat.

Sadly, the only way that you can find out if your Grandparents had more children is to go through the Birth Indexes & see if you can find any Births in that name after 1911.

The England & Wales Birth Indexes are free to view at Ancestry.co.uk.

Best of Luck, Romilly.
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