The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery

[Barbara.H]

There is a cryptic (to me anyway) listing on the Manchester Family History society's 'Back Issues' page which lists among the articles in issue 1558 ,Vol.37 No.1 2001 -"The Reverend David Lloyd-Lusitania Victim"
http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Bookshop/mangen.htm

Which is a bit odd as the Rev Lloyd doesn't appear in the list Migky linked to - unless I missed him, which is very very possible  .

Anyone got a copy of Issue 1558, vol 37, no 1, 2001 out there?

  Barbara

[bursy]

Hi Barbara,
His name was mis-spelt

From '' THE LUSITANIA RESOURCE''

Rev. DAVID LOYND, Second Cabin Passenger


Reverend David Loynd, 51, was born 12 November 1862 at 157 Park Street in Bolton, England.  His father William was a cotton spinner.  By 1903, David had met Alice Grimshaw who was from the Tottington area and they were married at the Bury Baptist Church.

Loynd did missionary work in Indiana among other places.  When the ship was struck David and Alice got into a lifeboat with Albert and Gladys Bilicke, which spilled as it was being lowered.

Alice wrote a long letter to her family which was found on her body.  A copy is on file at the Cunard Archives, Liverpool University.

Dave

[emmsthheight]

Hi

You've really moved this on since I saw it!

I've been trying to find something that mentions a date or age for Mary on the Lusiotania information but no success.  I was looking for the burial search too, for something else but it sounds as if I'll have to hold fore.

Keep up the good work!

Emms

Emms

[bursy]

Hi Ken,

Looking at the Ellis Island admittance records for your 'group' of four, these are possibilities :-

Name - Sarah Emma Woodcack (sic)
Ethnicity - English
Residence - Oldham, England
Arrival - Oct 30 1914
Age - 30
Gender - F
Status - Single
Ship - Franconia
Departure Port - Liverpool


Name - Mary Higginbottom
Ethnicity - English
Residence - Manchester
Arrival - Aug 3 1892
Age - 32
Gender - F
Status - Single
Ship - Teutonic
Departure Port - Liverpool

Name - Mary Lovett
Ethnicity - English
Residence - ?
Arrival - Feb 25 1895
Age - 24
Gender - F
Status - Single
Ship - Etruria
Departure Port - Liverpool

Cannot find anything yet on William Dewhurst

Dave

[uk2003]

A friend of mine has been in touch with Manchester Burials 

No person called Lovett was buried in Philips Park at that time 

The people that run

http://www.philipspark.org.uk/PhilipsPark/Medlock_Valley_Places/Philips_Park_Cemetery/

which says the reason for this hunt, don't know anything about the grave or who it is 

The Head keeper of the graveyard has no idea either   

So this is going to be a tough one to hunt down.

I will check the burials to see if any of the other names that Dave found show up at Philips Park.

If I get chance next week I will go to Manchester Central Library and check the newspapers for any clues.

Ken
 

[petmas]

Might be worth burrowing through the results of a date search on
http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search2.php
This is a search engine that ties to the CWGC site but allows search by unit/date/name/ nationality or service number . The link above is for WW1 but in the blue header you will find a WW2 link which has civilain dead, not sure if they are also on WW1 list. Pete

[Aulus]

Hi Ken,

I wonder if this little Falls River group, were somehow related to each other, or was it the start of an Ex-Pat conclave.   

Dave

I think quite a few went from the Blackburn/Darwen area to Fall River, Massachussets (I know a few of mine did, and so did the family of the author of that book (recommended) Road to Nab End) as the cotton industry was big there too.

[bursy]

Ken,

Might be worthwhile adding this family to your check list, they survived the sinking, but the story might have altered in the telling.

John & Gerda Welsh (nee Nielson)
31 Carlton Terrace
Gorton

Dave

[Barbara.H]

Was about to say the same thing Dave!      I was thinking .. I suppose it would cost quite a bit to transport a victim from Ireland where Lusitanis sank, to Manchester. So this family were perhaps likely to be in the first class cabins?  Or survivors, rather than victims 'on the day'?

In this list they are John and Gerda Welsh:

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/articles/lusitania.php

I know it says titanica, but it is about Lusitania! It also has a description of Mary Higginbottom of Falls River. Scroll down to details for Mrs Phoebe Amory, (who met Mary on board) The Then on Lest We Forget Part 2 of the same site, there is a photo of Mary

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/articles/lusitania2.php

  Barbara